Was Texas done away with in the new forum?
Really, this has been one of the more interesting threads in the past few years and yes it isn't a build thread.
Thank you to Lynn, johnk, Dr Geddes, mige, Panomaniac, BudP, and all the others I am forgetting in my moment of gratitude for sharing their knowledge and experiences with us.
Regards,
Chris
Yes, it's been a great thread. Lots to sort thru, lots to digest or leave behind, but it's been a great discussion.
Are people still expecting this to be a build thread?
Are people still expecting this to be a build thread?
lol
A lot already has been "built" - though not exactly as visibly as some expected.... 🙂
All the best for the year 2010 to Lynn and anybody
Michael
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Seems that the natives have become restless ... In the meantime here is some fascinating fun to be had: http://schoeps.de/showroom/
A big thanks to Alan Shaw of Harbeth for the link.
Lastly, a bit of mischief from Mr Gallo: http://www.drowninginbrown.com/dib_sp.htm
Cilla
A big thanks to Alan Shaw of Harbeth for the link.
Lastly, a bit of mischief from Mr Gallo: http://www.drowninginbrown.com/dib_sp.htm
Cilla
...but I have to admit the idea of an audiophool-grade mono system is interesting:
- 2-way cardioid (suppresses very early reflections from the front wall)
- waveguide with compression driver from 1kHz on
- 2 x 15" below 1kHz, one on the back to control directivity
- one or more subs below 80Hz
- 2-way cardioid (suppresses very early reflections from the front wall)
- waveguide with compression driver from 1kHz on
- 2 x 15" below 1kHz, one on the back to control directivity
- one or more subs below 80Hz
I have a mono system in the living room. Early 60s Fisher console. Great for all the Rat Pack and Tony Bennett stuff. Sounds be-u-ti-full all over the house.
(OK, it's actually stereo - but I never connected one side.)
(OK, it's actually stereo - but I never connected one side.)
great link, thank you very much.
I was surprised at the subtlety of the differences between some the micing systems on the ensemble. I wish they had included Blumlein, since Schoeps makes such a nice figure of eight mic.
Glad to see Schoeps is on the ball with their website development. they make some of my favorite mics and it's good to see them prosper with an old fashioned business model.
Had to develop on passive XO's recently - not my cup of tee usually - and ran out of parts, hence I "voiced" the speaker in MONO.
Really was impressed on the beauty and richness of sound – including basic room information – available form a single speaker.
I simply have forgotten that MONO is a serious option too – no lack in emotional involvement into music as I should have remembered form days gone.
On the other hand – I would not like to give up on all the fancy effects modern STEREO has to offer – I'm loving it.
So, switching back to STEREO with the finally "voiced" speakers was "not that bad at all"
🙂
Michael
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I have been told that doing listening tests in mono is much easier and I tend to agree! It takes out one element, which is the stereo reconstruction illusion that our brain has to process.
Mono testing has been shown to lead to different results than stereo. I should never do a listening test in stereo, but mono is just so much easier.
There is still image depth when listening to mono depending on original environment of recording.
Nearly every psychoacoustic study is based on single source setups. There's virtually now data for stereo and none for multichannel. But in the end that's all that matters in sound reproduction. It's a shame.
Best, Markus
I did a lot of box testing with a single speaker for my 604's. I like it very much. As long as you only listen to mono recordings, the sound is as rock solid as anyone could want it to be.
Thanks for that Pdan. Great fun. Listened to them all. Interesting to hear how different some are - and how similar others are.
On my system I tended to like the medium distance miking no matter what. Thought I would like the the ORTF on the ensemble best, but actually preferred the 90 deg.
A friend of mine had a couple of pair of Schoeps tube mics that actually came from the O.R.T.F. Lovely mics, separate power supplies. Used them a number of times in the ORTF holders and loved them. Need an almost hour to warm up before they sounded right.
I had some of the transistor Schoeps, but they got stolen along with my old tube Neumann. =(
I think Nelson's comments here are interesting..
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/158642-has-anyone-used-stereo-lab-400hz-tractrix-horns.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/158642-has-anyone-used-stereo-lab-400hz-tractrix-horns.html
A bit "back" topic...
Hello,
Did you mean this behaviour?
Link for full measurements
(Measured on a B&G RD75 parallel to the speaker plane in a 0,5m distance in 10mm vertical steps.)
I cannot "hear" that stated arrival deviations, maybe due to the Haas-effect. In my opinion a good line array may be pinpointed as exactly as a horn driver, without disturbing vertical smearing. Of course do exist remarkable holes in the amplitude response anywhere in the soundfield.
Regards, Timo
Hello,
Did you mean this behaviour?
Link for full measurements
(Measured on a B&G RD75 parallel to the speaker plane in a 0,5m distance in 10mm vertical steps.)
I cannot "hear" that stated arrival deviations, maybe due to the Haas-effect. In my opinion a good line array may be pinpointed as exactly as a horn driver, without disturbing vertical smearing. Of course do exist remarkable holes in the amplitude response anywhere in the soundfield.
Regards, Timo