Xovaan,
Listened to "Adrift" by Vök - nice! Thanks for sharing the link. 🙂
On your speakers, some good suggestions already made by the knowledgeable folks on the thread. If you want to go wideband (aka full-range) + helper woofer, I would also suggest you have a look at xrk971's RS225 FAST TL that diyA member waxx suggested in post #21. There is another design that Planet10 mentioned - the Halcyon by Curt Campbell - a few folks have built them recently and found the speakers to their liking, with deep bass and good imaging. However the Halcyon is quite deep at 21.5", but can be placed close to the wall.
Among single driver options, the Mark Audio Alpair 10.x and MAOP 10 provide impressive low frequency performance in right cabinet (of course within reasonable SPL limits). No experience with the Alpair 11MS but from what I've read on the forum, it is a good sounding driver too.
Listened to "Adrift" by Vök - nice! Thanks for sharing the link. 🙂
On your speakers, some good suggestions already made by the knowledgeable folks on the thread. If you want to go wideband (aka full-range) + helper woofer, I would also suggest you have a look at xrk971's RS225 FAST TL that diyA member waxx suggested in post #21. There is another design that Planet10 mentioned - the Halcyon by Curt Campbell - a few folks have built them recently and found the speakers to their liking, with deep bass and good imaging. However the Halcyon is quite deep at 21.5", but can be placed close to the wall.
Among single driver options, the Mark Audio Alpair 10.x and MAOP 10 provide impressive low frequency performance in right cabinet (of course within reasonable SPL limits). No experience with the Alpair 11MS but from what I've read on the forum, it is a good sounding driver too.
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The big problem with MAOP drivers is that they have been largely unobtainium, they are slowly becomeing more common.
I have a set f MAOP 7 i sm sving fot domrthing special.
dave
Dave,
From memory, your Mar-Ken 7 deci-size design was very good... maybe put the drivers in that one and start listening. 🙂
You can put the MAOP drivers in the big Alpair 12PW MTM too - you still have that speaker?
From memory, your Mar-Ken 7 deci-size design was very good... maybe put the drivers in that one and start listening. 🙂
You can put the MAOP drivers in the big Alpair 12PW MTM too - you still have that speaker?
I slept on it and decided to take the plunge on the MAOP 11's. KJF Audio had one set in stock. It said they may be back-ordered on the product page, but I'm fine with that.
Thank you everyone for the amazing help 🙂 Going to work with Bob to get a great Pensil case kit put together. Super excited for this next project!
Some additional questions:
- What do do you all recommend for hardware for this build beyond the case and speaker? Internal wiring, mounting plates for the plugs, etc. The AviaTrix came with everything needed (cups / jacks / etc.) however I'd love your input on what would be an ideal choice in hardware for this build.
- The MAOP 11's are said to be identical to the Alpair 11ms's -- does that mean the power rating is the same as well? (35 watt sustained for the 11ms's according to Madison Sound)
Thank you everyone for the amazing help 🙂 Going to work with Bob to get a great Pensil case kit put together. Super excited for this next project!
Some additional questions:
- What do do you all recommend for hardware for this build beyond the case and speaker? Internal wiring, mounting plates for the plugs, etc. The AviaTrix came with everything needed (cups / jacks / etc.) however I'd love your input on what would be an ideal choice in hardware for this build.
- The MAOP 11's are said to be identical to the Alpair 11ms's -- does that mean the power rating is the same as well? (35 watt sustained for the 11ms's according to Madison Sound)
Yes, something like that. But likely a wider, squatter version sitting on some sort of multiple driver miniOnken bass support.
dave
dave
A MAOP is a normal metal cone that is bombarded by electrons to form a ceramic coating that is only molecules thick. The pass rate in QC i understand is very low so that is why the cost and the scarcity.
So it is essentially a A11ms that has had massaging to improve micro dynamics/DDR. It fits in all the same boxes.
dave
So it is essentially a A11ms that has had massaging to improve micro dynamics/DDR. It fits in all the same boxes.
dave
Dave,
Is the MAOP 11 based on the Alpair 11MS or Pluvia 11?
Being based on the Pluvia 11 is not necessarily a bad thing as I suspect that the Pluvia 11 was designed for heavier low frequency load and that goes well with the OP's choice of music.
Is the MAOP 11 based on the Alpair 11MS or Pluvia 11?
Being based on the Pluvia 11 is not necessarily a bad thing as I suspect that the Pluvia 11 was designed for heavier low frequency load and that goes well with the OP's choice of music.
The difference between P11 and A11ms box-loads are very minimal. They have similar extension, the Alpair higher DDR/resolution
dave
dave
I was looking at the spec sheets and found the MAOP 11 closer to that of the Pluvia 11. Also there was no mention of the mono suspension or the negative camber cone. Hence I am leaning towards the Pluvia 11 as the basis for the MAOP 11.
Maybe Scott can clarify.
Maybe Scott can clarify.
I sot=rta got my ideas of what the A11 MAOP would be from Scott.
I would not bother with a P11 MAOP, the stock A11ms would very likely out finesse it and cost less.
dave