Thanks for the link!
Well, they have 3/4" subfloor. That should do the job for Punkrocker!
And it just has to be a lot cheaper than any plywood that would work.
http://www.osbguide.com/pdfs/EL809.pdf
One layer should work for him if its reinforced, otherwise I think for people wanting optimum performance that two layers of 3/4" would be best, and still pretty cheap! I used 2 layers of that 3/4" cheap ply and it is VERY solid so I think OSB would be as good or better.
Another option is to use the 3/4" OSB , then an outer layer of plywood with a more attractive veneer. I think the OSB pattern is pretty cool though and finished correctly could work well. Maybe anilene dye and a clear coat? OR paint rolled on with a fine roller.
Well, they have 3/4" subfloor. That should do the job for Punkrocker!
And it just has to be a lot cheaper than any plywood that would work.
http://www.osbguide.com/pdfs/EL809.pdf
One layer should work for him if its reinforced, otherwise I think for people wanting optimum performance that two layers of 3/4" would be best, and still pretty cheap! I used 2 layers of that 3/4" cheap ply and it is VERY solid so I think OSB would be as good or better.
Another option is to use the 3/4" OSB , then an outer layer of plywood with a more attractive veneer. I think the OSB pattern is pretty cool though and finished correctly could work well. Maybe anilene dye and a clear coat? OR paint rolled on with a fine roller.
Greets!
You're welcome!
Yeah, waferboard is hard to beat overall and makes for an interesting looking piece of furniture or wall decor. I don't know if they still publish it, but Louisiana-Pacific (L-P) use to have a 'Decorating Magic' brochure showing various ways of using/finishing it, showing how different washes, deck stains, etc., made it look and one called 'How to work wonders with L-P waferboard' detailing edge treatments, etc..
WRT strength, I used it for roof decking on some very low slope (1:12) room additions when it first came out, and they have stood the test of time, including several large limbs crashing into one of them without smashing through. Consequently, it's hard on saw blades though.
GM
You're welcome!
Yeah, waferboard is hard to beat overall and makes for an interesting looking piece of furniture or wall decor. I don't know if they still publish it, but Louisiana-Pacific (L-P) use to have a 'Decorating Magic' brochure showing various ways of using/finishing it, showing how different washes, deck stains, etc., made it look and one called 'How to work wonders with L-P waferboard' detailing edge treatments, etc..
WRT strength, I used it for roof decking on some very low slope (1:12) room additions when it first came out, and they have stood the test of time, including several large limbs crashing into one of them without smashing through. Consequently, it's hard on saw blades though.
GM
Well, we've done all we can, its up to Punkorckr now.
We've gotten him:
big box
big bass
small price:
The 2 "full range" drivers are about $130 a pair, the wood probably $50 or $60. < $200
With crossover and 2 tweeters and some wood around the opening:
< $300
Can't wait for a report from SOMEONE.
Would be nice if someoe did a calc with a higher end co-ax such as the B&C or some such...
We've gotten him:
big box
big bass
small price:
The 2 "full range" drivers are about $130 a pair, the wood probably $50 or $60. < $200
With crossover and 2 tweeters and some wood around the opening:
< $300
Can't wait for a report from SOMEONE.
Would be nice if someoe did a calc with a higher end co-ax such as the B&C or some such...
Greets!
Well, there's this one I did the other day using either $vintage$ or current $identical clones$: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1048057#post1048057
GM
Well, there's this one I did the other day using either $vintage$ or current $identical clones$: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1048057#post1048057
GM
........or the full size version for those with the room....... sub system strictly optional 😉: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1047741#post1047741
Whoa! that's amazing, and amazingly big!!
I'll start reading the regular BIB thread.
Here is the B&C 10" co-ax
http://www.partsexpress.com/pdf/294-685.pdf
Does it lend itself to a BIB?
Seems like it might be a good compromise, but I don't know
the criteria..
I'll start reading the regular BIB thread.
Here is the B&C 10" co-ax
http://www.partsexpress.com/pdf/294-685.pdf
Does it lend itself to a BIB?
Seems like it might be a good compromise, but I don't know
the criteria..
Greets!
Search the BIB thread for Beyma for some and I'll post some B&C there when I get a chance.
GM
Search the BIB thread for Beyma for some and I'll post some B&C there when I get a chance.
GM
Great, One nice thing about the B+C is that they sell a crossover, presumably designed for that unit.. That's something for me to look into..
I figure the 10" size would give a good transition to the tweeter, while still being big enough for crazy bass...
But not crazy cheap....
I figure the 10" size would give a good transition to the tweeter, while still being big enough for crazy bass...
But not crazy cheap....
I would prefer not to actually buy the crossovers, but to search around their sites for the schematics...
I have a pair of 8" Pioneer bufu drivers and some tweeters here that I got from Nelson. I wasn't planning to make a BIB- I just thought it would be good for Punkr. But all this discussion seems to have hooked me!
I have a friend who has a pro table saw that he needs to get set up. He swears that by the new year it will be ready. With that monster I'll whip out a set in a couple of hours I bet!
I have a pair of 8" Pioneer bufu drivers and some tweeters here that I got from Nelson. I wasn't planning to make a BIB- I just thought it would be good for Punkr. But all this discussion seems to have hooked me!
I have a friend who has a pro table saw that he needs to get set up. He swears that by the new year it will be ready. With that monster I'll whip out a set in a couple of hours I bet!
OK so its been a while since we've mentioned this project and just so you know ,yes I am going to build it, I've purchased the wood for it which I decided to make 7 ply void free 3/4" birch which my dad caught on sale for $32 a sheet and he chipped in a little cause he's also excited about me getting these built.
Excellent, I think you will be the first to make them, and be a member of the club! (the speaker making geek club that is!) Good price on the ply, and they sould look good too.
yeh,lol, well the birch definitely looks good because its what my dad uses to build most of his furniture and it has one smooth glossy side which looks really nice. well I am now in the process of constructing the cabinets off of the blueprints posted earlier on so far I've got the front baffles and the bottom cut out and I'm waiting for a table saw for the sides cause the circular saw i WAS using nearly cut my family jewels off when the trigger spring froze up in it, thank god I had a death grip on it or I probably wouldn't be sitting here right now, close call.
Any news on these? Has anyone built one yet? I'm thinking about ordering the Beta 12 LTA drivers soon.
Jeremiah
Jeremiah
I guess you will be the first!
I can't imagine a better fun-for-the dollar and fun-for-the effort
speaker.
I keep putting it off until my audio buddy finishes making making his shop wit the huge table saw. He has the slab floor poured, so we are about ready to go. It just seems soooo much easier to wait because with that saw we could cut the thing in a matter of MINUTES.
That's silly though, because with a portable circular saw and a guideboard, you could cut the things in a couple of hours..
I'm dying for a report so please do it!!
I can't imagine a better fun-for-the dollar and fun-for-the effort
speaker.
I keep putting it off until my audio buddy finishes making making his shop wit the huge table saw. He has the slab floor poured, so we are about ready to go. It just seems soooo much easier to wait because with that saw we could cut the thing in a matter of MINUTES.
That's silly though, because with a portable circular saw and a guideboard, you could cut the things in a couple of hours..
I'm dying for a report so please do it!!
Guys, guys... what you really need is one with an additional Eminence driver (I think they do a woofer-only version fo this unit?) mounted through the internal sloping baffle for that nice juicy shot of tapped horn boost in the LF. Feel that bass. 😱
Not my idea I hasten to add... GM's plotting one using 8in Pioneers, if he's able to.
Is that bad enough for you?
Not my idea I hasten to add... GM's plotting one using 8in Pioneers, if he's able to.
Is that bad enough for you?
Here's the 12" w/o whizzer
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=290-408
I never dreamed that we needed MORE bass, but I guess we did
After all Mr. Moose wouldn't kid about such a thing!?
For comparison, here is the whizzer cone widerange model:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=290-409
Specs are similar enough to be mostly the cone differences.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=290-408
I never dreamed that we needed MORE bass, but I guess we did
After all Mr. Moose wouldn't kid about such a thing!?For comparison, here is the whizzer cone widerange model:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=290-409
Specs are similar enough to be mostly the cone differences.
Greets!
Hope springs eternal. Just when I had a neighbor (the 4x4 monster Triumph Spitfire dude) conned into doing all the cutting/heavy labor, he got a contract to help bullet/roadside bomb-proof a bunch of SUVs for Middle East duty, so he's welding/grinding till he's cross-eyed every day. Pay sure is good though, so he's not complaining.
GM
Hope springs eternal. Just when I had a neighbor (the 4x4 monster Triumph Spitfire dude) conned into doing all the cutting/heavy labor, he got a contract to help bullet/roadside bomb-proof a bunch of SUVs for Middle East duty, so he's welding/grinding till he's cross-eyed every day. Pay sure is good though, so he's not complaining.
GM
Nice to have you guys back for a chat.
I guess GM is like me- Our friends lets us down by not making us stuff or having the proper shop to exploit 😉
I guess GM is like me- Our friends lets us down by not making us stuff or having the proper shop to exploit
😉
Nope. Not kidding. Personally, I don't understand the morbid fear of bass that seems to have infected almost all commercial companies & their speakers at the moment. 😉
Curses. Can't say I'm surprised about the good pay though... Oh well, if you can't manage the tapped version for a while Greg, I might give it a shot -I can put my chambered BIB on hold for a while. Looks like Ron's already at work on that one anyway.
GM said:
Curses. Can't say I'm surprised about the good pay though... Oh well, if you can't manage the tapped version for a while Greg, I might give it a shot -I can put my chambered BIB on hold for a while. Looks like Ron's already at work on that one anyway.
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