richie00boy said:Have you verified the vent tuning frequency?
Not by any scientific means, but I did play test tones and it seemed most turbulent at about 40hz, which is the tuning frequency.
Hi PM,
Progress has halted since I posted that last pic as I've been really unwell the last few days
I feel just about ok enough to screw the side on again and add extra screws, but the MDF dust might flare up the coughing, so it might have to wait till tomorrow.
Could be thinking about the x-over for it, but I'm not even up to that right now.
Progress has halted since I posted that last pic as I've been really unwell the last few days

I feel just about ok enough to screw the side on again and add extra screws, but the MDF dust might flare up the coughing, so it might have to wait till tomorrow.
Could be thinking about the x-over for it, but I'm not even up to that right now.

Vikash said:Being ill has a silver lining. I get to spend guilt free time planning DIY audio stuff 😉
hehe, I suppose that's true at least!! Really I'd rather feel well tho 🙁
pinkmouse said:Get well soon! 🙂
Cheers man, I'm quite a lot better now 🙂
I decided I needed to seal the gaps in the loose panel as there was too much leakage and vibration. In the end I thought a coating of all purpose Sealant was the way to go as I could always tear this panel away from such a rubbery compound, unlike glue. I smeared some on with a finger, then screwed the panel on, then played some test tones and checked for leaks. I then sealed these from the outside.
The result - the port now breathes more violently and the drivers seem to be using less excursion. So the speaker is working more like it was designed to. The only output much under 40hz is extreme port wind, so I'd make the port larger if I did this again.
Think I'll give it another blast in the system now, and be thinking about making the x-over...
I think the neighbours have maybe had enough of that listening test now 😉
It's very fun to play this with my main speakers.
I wonder why the excursion is so high though, any thoughts? I can make the cones travel far enough to induce bad noises with a 70w amp. This isn't what WINISD predicted, why?
This speaker is clealy not nearly capable of the max SPL it was supposed to be capable of.
It's very fun to play this with my main speakers.
I wonder why the excursion is so high though, any thoughts? I can make the cones travel far enough to induce bad noises with a 70w amp. This isn't what WINISD predicted, why?
This speaker is clealy not nearly capable of the max SPL it was supposed to be capable of.
What frequency were you expecting the vent to be tuned to? Let me know the box outer dimensions, panel thickness, vent length, height and width, and I'll do a double check for you.
pinkmouse said:Hmm, the port is obviously wrong somehow. What happens if you block it completely?
Blocking completely is easier said than done, but covering it with my hand cone excursion is reduced at 25hz but increased at 31hz and especially 40hz. This would suggest it's tuned correctly I think.
richie00boy said:What frequency were you expecting the vent to be tuned to? Let me know the box outer dimensions, panel thickness, vent length, height and width, and I'll do a double check for you.
It's supposed to be tuned to 40hz. Externally it's 600 x 188 x 460 mm. The port is 250 mm long, 145mm wide and 30mm high.
Actually, I think the port may be slightly detuned. I might not have taken account of the thickness of the front panel

Yes, I accidentally made the port a little longer than it should be. It would appear to actually be tuned to about 39hz, see pic. Doesn't make much difference tho, and I think it sort of sounds as it models - a little shy.
I'm still no closer to understanding about the excursion though.
I'm still no closer to understanding about the excursion though.
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Hi all. This project seems to have run out of steam right now, as the isobaric ported prototype was only 'ok' and not impressive enough to justify carrying on with and building two of.
With the other speaker being cut to the right shape for a ported box (boring) I wondered if I could squeeze a transmission line in there. I've heard one set of TLs and I loved the smooth high quality bass they made. Like nothing else.
I've drawn to scale a possible maze arrangement, and although it's long enough I think (just about 1/4 wavelength of Fs) it's rather a small diameter line. Worth building to try??
With the other speaker being cut to the right shape for a ported box (boring) I wondered if I could squeeze a transmission line in there. I've heard one set of TLs and I loved the smooth high quality bass they made. Like nothing else.
I've drawn to scale a possible maze arrangement, and although it's long enough I think (just about 1/4 wavelength of Fs) it's rather a small diameter line. Worth building to try??
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Vikash said:I'd suggest getting those T/S extracted as accurately as you can first 😉
I'd agree. The problems with the isobarik box you built are most likely down to the size and porting being wrong, not the drivers or the concept.
Vikash, drivers posted today! 😀
Can't wait to see what results you measure! Any idea of what you could use those two for? Or does that depend on how they measure? 😉
Simon
Can't wait to see what results you measure! Any idea of what you could use those two for? Or does that depend on how they measure? 😉
Simon
Ok, great. I'll have 'em done asap and let you know the results. Will see what can be done with them after I get them in my hands.
Were these ones broken in at all? I like to crank them hard for a few days before measuring usually.
Were these ones broken in at all? I like to crank them hard for a few days before measuring usually.
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