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tlf9999 said:
Sony and Phillips have done a lot during the CD days to conclude that it was sufficient for a lot of us using 16bits and 44khz sampling.
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We have 16 bits & 44kHz sampling because that was pushing the computer technology of the day. Even Sony admits today it was not enuff. It had nothing to do with being sufficient. It is a tribute to the engineers that they can actually make a CD sound as good as they do today (even a modest vinyl analog rig can smoke ANY CD player)

dave
 
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planet10 said:
We have 16 bits & 44kHz sampling because that was pushing the computer technology of the day. Even Sony admits today it was not enuff.
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Actually it was Mr. Morita (Sony's president at the time), in the development process, that insisted with Philips that Beethoven's 9th symphony should fit on a single CD.
Philips had initially developed the format for 16bits/48Khz, what gives around 60 min. running time.
Such was the insistance from Mr. Morita, that the CD-DA specification was changed to 16bit/44.1Khz.

We should all thank Sony. :apathic:
 
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The annoyance stems from fear of scientific analysis, but rather from the diversion that human beings need some form of enjoyment,

I don't think musicians would even perform music if it wasn't enjoyable to them.
Some threads are piloted by people who enjoy listening, rather than constantly being drawn into scientific reasearch.
Finding it hurtful when someone tries to disproove their pleasure and happiness........
Better judgement needs to be used as to where the questions should be asked, and if the person who started the thread is not overly interested in measurments and proof, the thread should be left to those inclined towards it's root beliefs.
 
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planet10 said:


My exposure to the story dates from well before i even knew what the internet was. Probably 1980 at Las Vegas CES.

dave
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that doesn't mean it is correct.

A certain member of that development team made a presentation refuting the story. But I suppose our "CD-expert" knows more about it than a first-person account.
 
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On topic:
I remember someone on another forum was asking some questions about aksa55 and DID attach schematic.
Would it be wrong if I put a link to this site ?
moderators ?
I guess it probably isn't aksa55 itself as someone said it has not been ever published online... but I don't know ?
Or should I contact to that forum's moderator ?
 
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Cal Weldon said:
Geez,

You're so good at suggesting the sources others choose are not valid and you can't even provide a link to that of which you speak? It's not a wonder you are not taken very seriously.
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I know, whatever said by the internet must be true and whatever cannot be found on the internet must be false. That's so typical of the superficials.

Didn't I mention proceedings from a certain meeting in a certain year? I guess that's too challenging for some of us to actually use that piece of information to locate a couple pages in your local library.

You can, they have librarians there to help you. Yes, that nice old lady. She will find it for you if you still cannot.


Cal Weldon said:
Here's a transcript of the keynote speaker, Mr George Massenburg for those who wish to read.

http://www.aes.org/events/103/
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Of course, when we cannot find it, we might as well find some irrlevant passages and pretend they are what they aren't.

Nice try.
 
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tlf9999 = CIRCUS ACT

I've come to look at TLF9999 as a negative feedback loop.

Say anything positive and something negative will be returned.

It is sort of a circus act. And our concern over the negativity feeds HIS negativity.

So from now on.

Say what you want TLF9999.

I won't comment on your abuse of common courtesy and proper manners that are happily the norm around this forum .

Mark
 
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With all the energy of pickering and personal attacks, you guys could have found that nice little article by this AES Fellow and a member of the P-S team that developed the CD format.

It is a great piece of history and even if you have known everything about this world and more, i guarrantte you that reading it will bring lots of satisfaction to you.

So if you cannot find it in your local library, ask that nice old lady for help.

It is in the 1997 AES meeting in New York City. and that article will clearly tell you if it has anything to do with the Beethoven so you don't have ever to humiliate yourself in front of your friends by errornously quoting a non-existant piece of history.
 
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tlf9999 said:
Didn't I mention proceedings from a certain meeting in a certain year?
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Yes. Still a needle in a haystack since there are over 250 preprints you could be referring to (averaging probably 10+ pages per). Do you have a preprint # & relevant page?

dave
 

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tlf9999 said:
I know, whatever said by the internet must be true and whatever cannot be found on the internet must be false.
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Hey Mr. Whatever... you are a typical internet guy, have you noticed?
tlf9999 doesn't tell me anything, nill, rien, nada.
You don't even have a name. 🙄

Actually, the article I read I can't find on the net, and it was many years ago. Not on the net, not on Stereophile.

The lobby that was created for a 74 minutes CD made Philips opt for 16bit resolution, 44.1Khz sampling rate and 12cm disc diameter.
As you can imagine, it would be embarassing for a Philips engineer to admit that the final CD-DA format was not their idea, it was a lobby from a classical music lover.

tlf9999 said:
Nice try.
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Thanks. :cheerful:
 
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