Are you really interested in 'Hi-Fi'?

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actually I have just been reminded I need to listen to marriage of figaro recording I have. Been so long I can't remember label (think decca). The footsteps of the singers moving around helps locate them on the stage and helps the mind put together the illusion of the venue. At least for me.
 
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billshurv said:
actually I have just been reminded I need to listen to marriage of figaro recording I have. Been so long I can't remember label (think decca). The footsteps of the singers moving around helps locate them on the stage and helps the mind put together the illusion of the venue. At least for me.
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I would have imagined the placement of the voices would be less difficult than counting how many steps the singer took. What if it were a woman that took fast small steps, you would actually perceive her in the wrong position. 😕
 
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Who now spends money on component HI-FI now we have big screen, surround sound Smart HD TVs and hundreds of cable channels, and not forgetting computer gaming and time wasting forums?
I find it incredible, that besides all the above some, manage to find the time to diddle around with vinyl.
 
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Charles Darwin said:
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It is the definition that stood for decades until the New-Age fairies descended on our hobby in the '80s.
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Where did you get the idea that this definition stood for decades?
Hoeg published his approach in 1970 and still stands by it and if you care to read the papers that were published after the first open public demonstration in 1933 you´ll surely note that the authors reference was the live performance.

Fortunately the AES made these symposium papers free to download:

http://www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/bell.labs/auditoryperspective.pdf
 
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Jakob, Charles already voluntarily agreed to deescalate in one exchange. Please take that as a sign of personal introspection and consider some degree cooperation in such efforts. In other words, if you could please try to say what you have to say in a most neutral way, without undertones of the previous tit-for-tat exchanges, it will probably help segue into a friendlier exchange or discussion. Thank you.
 
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Jakob2 said:
there exists such a broad range of diverging reproduction systems or elements,
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For speakers, yes. For DACs, preamps, amps and cables, no. DACs covert signlas, preamps direct line level signals, amps amplify, cables carry electrical signals. What's so diverging about each component?

but the fact that we still have to rely (need to do) perceptual evaluations means that we still not know enough.
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What's perceptual about measurements of input and output signals? 🙄
 
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DF96 said:
They are confusing preference with hi-fi. This confusion is endemic on this forum.
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It appears that one does that intentionally to muddy up the water. There are online shills all over the forums and their affiliation is with selling business, typically with high-end audio electronics. You see, if the "water" is cleared up for potential buyers to see that paying more for component isn't going to gain them the sonic quality, the sellers of such components will try to muddy it back up in an attempt to maintain their cash flow. 😉
 
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Evenharmonics said:
It appears that one does that intentionally to muddy up the water. There are online shills all over the forums and their affiliation is with selling business, typically with high-end audio electronics. You see, if the "water" is cleared up for potential buyers to see that paying more for component isn't going to gain them the sonic quality, the sellers of such components will try to muddy it back up in an attempt to maintain their cash flow. 😉
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Quite a tale. You aren't an investigative reporter here undercover by any chance?
 
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