Last year I helped two GenY and GenZ guys build speakers and they loved it. It started with a text to a bunch of my kids’ friends: “does anyone wanna build a speaker project?” I got some hearty yeses. Bought the parts, put em together. This is Jake and his new speakers.
I think the main issue is audiophiles aren't keeping up with the science. People slate ASR but measurements are far more important than the HiFi industry want us to believe. Don't get caught wasting time with cables and swapping out capacitors in a DAC and focus on what actually matters.
My 2cents are
-the ever rising prices of audio gear is ridiculed the all industry.
-our brain is over stimulated from fast pace rewards. If you can sit quietly through the all record span then you are a rare breed indeed
-the ever rising prices of audio gear is ridiculed the all industry.
-our brain is over stimulated from fast pace rewards. If you can sit quietly through the all record span then you are a rare breed indeed
I feel like there’s a lot of complaining here about the younger generation…. whereas helping them, investing in them and believing in them works a whole lot better.
When I worked with some of these 20-something guys on their speaker projects, for them it was like doing a project with dad, even though neither of them are my sons.
Honey attracts better than vinegar.
When I worked with some of these 20-something guys on their speaker projects, for them it was like doing a project with dad, even though neither of them are my sons.
Honey attracts better than vinegar.
I have this conversation with a friend. Years ago, we could experiment with parts removed from a TV or radio, but now, how many parts are salvageable from a Wi-Fi router?
On the other hand, we can now use an Arduino as a component, and build more complex things.
My kids aren't the slightest bit interested in audio, but my son plays with a Raspberry Pi and Zigbee.
Hi-Fi was important when there were 4 TV channels and live music was a bus ride away.
Things change, but there will always be people who like to make things.
On the other hand, we can now use an Arduino as a component, and build more complex things.
My kids aren't the slightest bit interested in audio, but my son plays with a Raspberry Pi and Zigbee.
Hi-Fi was important when there were 4 TV channels and live music was a bus ride away.
Things change, but there will always be people who like to make things.
I have a goodly pile of future and current audio projects. My brother got me into fixing gear a year and a half ago. Even after a bad session in my mancave, I come downstairs in a better mood.
It's true that audio quality is not nearly as much of a concern among younger folks due party to the higher SQ in base level audio (as Dendrobium noted earlier) and the often overwhelming conditions of life in general these days. That is until you show them something much better, as perrymarshall said, at which point they can become very engaged & interested, sometimes enough to get into DIY because so many can't afford the better gear.
I've had lots of experiences similar to Perry. I always welcome folks to hear/see my stuff & find people get swayed by my enthusiasm and the end result -- canned music like they've rarely heard before.
I've had lots of experiences similar to Perry. I always welcome folks to hear/see my stuff & find people get swayed by my enthusiasm and the end result -- canned music like they've rarely heard before.
Very good point!
Particularly for those whose profession is not photography.
For photographers, the camera is a work tool, so upgrading their gear regularly is probably a “mandatory” business expense.
This is super cool!! My buddies son built a pair of Klipsch Heresy's in his high school woodshop last year, sourced the drivers and crossovers - Super cool project for a young guy. This is the second set of speakers he's built, the 1st was a CSS kit. I've been sending pics of the open baffles I'm building -- I dig it when younger folks get involved. I wish someone would have introduced me to this hobby as a kid !
I never did the Introduction.... ;-)
My effective intro was that fateful Friday evening when I asked for help fixing my newly acquired Rawson F5 monoblock. Before that I had been lurking for a few years.
WTH?
Even Nelson nicely flamed me... Badge of Honor.
Anyhow, I did fix the amps,
Our world seems to be shrinking, not just us in numbers.
I find it difficult to convince a music afficionade (not necessarily an audiophile) that my selfmade amps are more than just so much bigger than (all those smd-minuscule-but-quite-good) commercial gear... But I don't have a proper listening room (yet) either.
I find it difficult to convince a music afficionade (not necessarily an audiophile) that my selfmade amps are more than just so much bigger than (all those smd-minuscule-but-quite-good) commercial gear... But I don't have a proper listening room (yet) either.
It costs too much, nobody is willing to admit that expensive gear is not necessarily better (just different and may or not suit your tastes), the market is flooded with endless gear and "reviewers" who claim that the new thing is the best, endless crap about silver fuses etc.
I WAS an audiophile. I thought I could get a better and better experience the more I went up the ladder. Then I joined an audio group where I could sample gear in my home. And found out that the expensive stuff is mostly ******** and I have more pressing things to spend my money on.
Audiophelia is for people with too much money who believe in acoustical rocks and other such garbage. Who tf is going to be attracted to that? It's also one of the highest nervosa inducing hobbies. People want a hobby to relax - not to create more stress for them.
You want to attract women? Discuss how the music feels through your equipment. Not how many output devices it has. Gear-centric talk is an immediate turnoff for most women.
I have a few DIY amps and preamps and decent speakers that don't cost the same as a car and I'm perfectly happy enjoying my music. No more audiophilia for me.
I WAS an audiophile. I thought I could get a better and better experience the more I went up the ladder. Then I joined an audio group where I could sample gear in my home. And found out that the expensive stuff is mostly ******** and I have more pressing things to spend my money on.
Audiophelia is for people with too much money who believe in acoustical rocks and other such garbage. Who tf is going to be attracted to that? It's also one of the highest nervosa inducing hobbies. People want a hobby to relax - not to create more stress for them.
You want to attract women? Discuss how the music feels through your equipment. Not how many output devices it has. Gear-centric talk is an immediate turnoff for most women.
I have a few DIY amps and preamps and decent speakers that don't cost the same as a car and I'm perfectly happy enjoying my music. No more audiophilia for me.
I don't notice that, i see tons of younger people (in their twenties or even teens) building speakers and asking me questions about it. But they don't come to fora like here that much, they are on reddit and similar platforms. And they largely build speakers for different reasons.
There are whole music scenes that run on custom build speaker stacks. The whole freetek rave culture is like that, just like dub and steppers culture (and related genres like dubstep and jungle also for a large part), and more and more also more underground electronic music crews build their own custom speaker set tuned to their wishes.
For hifi, it's more modern in style, often boomboxes with bt and dsp build in. A smaller group is also into classic style hifi boxes.
But it was and still is a tiny minority that does that, It was like that also 25 years ago when i was a youngster and started to mod and build speakers.
There are whole music scenes that run on custom build speaker stacks. The whole freetek rave culture is like that, just like dub and steppers culture (and related genres like dubstep and jungle also for a large part), and more and more also more underground electronic music crews build their own custom speaker set tuned to their wishes.
For hifi, it's more modern in style, often boomboxes with bt and dsp build in. A smaller group is also into classic style hifi boxes.
But it was and still is a tiny minority that does that, It was like that also 25 years ago when i was a youngster and started to mod and build speakers.
Also, the Boomers are the ones with all the money. Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z are broke. They can't afford the equipment or "listening rooms".
Seriously, the industry needs to get a clue. It's going to die and it's its own fault.
Seriously, the industry needs to get a clue. It's going to die and it's its own fault.