I'm not finding any photos of an "H frame." Could someone post a pic of what the heck it is? Thanks
I'm not finding any photos of an "H frame." Could someone post a pic of what the heck it is? Thanks
Check out the first page of this thread, post #8. Abertli has a snapshot of his (nice)system up there. His open baffle Alpair 12's are sitting on his "H-Frame" woofers.
An H-frame is basically a shallow, square box with no front or back. Instead it has a baffle in the (approx.) middle in which the woofer is mounted. It doesn't really resemble an "H" all that much.
Check out the first page of this thread, post #8. Abertli has a snapshot of his (nice)system up there. His open baffle Alpair 12's are sitting on his "H-Frame" woofers.
An H-frame is basically a shallow, square box with no front or back. Instead it has a baffle in the (approx.) middle in which the woofer is mounted. It doesn't really resemble an "H" all that much.
Cut one in half horizontally, and look down from above....
Cut one in half horizontally, and look down from above....
What?...and ruin a perfectly good frame 😀.
What?...and ruin a perfectly good frame 😀.
Do it Metaphysically....Man....Saws like make waaayyy to much noise and harsh my buzzz.
🙂 Great timing on this post, I just inherited a pair of OB panels from Phil Townsend that he had a 6 1/2 inch Feastrex and Altec 416 B (GPA) drivers in each OB. I have a pair of Altec A7's that I am going to refinish cabinets and was looking to build (or get) another set of speakers in the meantime. Well today decided to try the Alpair 10 with my 416A drivers below . I will use Phil's digital crossover to find crossover point and then build to exact measurement. Really looking forward to hearing the Alpair and having a different sound. Love the A7's but a second speaker system is always fun to swap out.😎
I know I love to swap out stuff.
I think I rearrange setups more often than my wife switchs purses !!!!!!!!!!!!
Norman
I think I rearrange setups more often than my wife switchs purses !!!!!!!!!!!!
Norman
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
Martin's web site is the best place to start on H-frames. I built both the 15" Eminence and the 18" Goldwood GW-1858 from his designs. Search this forum for the GW-1858 and you will find plenty on H-frames.
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
Martin's web site is the best place to start on H-frames. I built both the 15" Eminence and the 18" Goldwood GW-1858 from his designs. Search this forum for the GW-1858 and you will find plenty on H-frames.
I'm building my first OB, need some advice on crossover values for MJK OB plans with Alpha 15A and Alpair 12?
LPF - 68uF/9mH
HPF - 30uF/3mH
Thanks
LPF - 68uF/9mH
HPF - 30uF/3mH
Thanks
any new news ?
I'd think a 3' wide baffle should get most drivers down to 150hz (just below the Feq).
Just a driver on a board, no x-over, no woofers.............
Anyone ?
Norman
I'd think a 3' wide baffle should get most drivers down to 150hz (just below the Feq).
Just a driver on a board, no x-over, no woofers.............
Anyone ?
Norman
Guess I will resurrect this thread. Only just discovered the Alpairs which at the moment I am liking more than my Bastanis 😉
They were CNC'd out of 40mm MDF & sprayed white.
The sub is an AE Dipole 18 actively driven by a Berhinger iNuke with built in DSP. Crossing at 140Hz suits me, but its really easy to integrate the sub using the Behringer software in real time from listening position with a laptop and to compansate for room nodes.
I have not gone for a full H-frame due to room considerations. I have also tried the Goldwoods in this application with equally great results.




They were CNC'd out of 40mm MDF & sprayed white.
The sub is an AE Dipole 18 actively driven by a Berhinger iNuke with built in DSP. Crossing at 140Hz suits me, but its really easy to integrate the sub using the Behringer software in real time from listening position with a laptop and to compansate for room nodes.

I have not gone for a full H-frame due to room considerations. I have also tried the Goldwoods in this application with equally great results.
Ciao Guglielmo
These are the 12p's. I chose them for the paper cone & efficiency......
Cheers
Vic
These are the 12p's. I chose them for the paper cone & efficiency......
Cheers
Vic
Goldwood GW-1858
Similar crossover to AE's, but all these parameters easily adjustable in real time with Behringer to suit.
Similar crossover to AE's, but all these parameters easily adjustable in real time with Behringer to suit.
At the moment I've a pair of Hawthrone SSI 10" with Goldwood GW-1858 in H-frame but in the future I'd like to try Alpair 12P.
Did you make any comparison between Hawthrone SSI, Bastanis and Alpair 12?
What do you think about?
Guglielmo
Did you make any comparison between Hawthrone SSI, Bastanis and Alpair 12?
What do you think about?
Guglielmo
I did comparison in another thread.
I found the Hawthornes to be too laid back with loss of micro detail. The Bastanis excel in this. In my case too much & unforgiving of some material to become tiring.
The Alpairs seem to give a nice balance in my system....plenty of detail and never tiring. Also more coherent being a single point source. I have been using for 3 months now & cannot find anything I dont like about them!
I found the Hawthornes to be too laid back with loss of micro detail. The Bastanis excel in this. In my case too much & unforgiving of some material to become tiring.
The Alpairs seem to give a nice balance in my system....plenty of detail and never tiring. Also more coherent being a single point source. I have been using for 3 months now & cannot find anything I dont like about them!
hi k9vap - what amp/crossover point/slope are you using for the 12P? -which Inuke are you using?
- Home
- Loudspeakers
- Full Range
- Alpair 12 Open Baffle Designs