Hi Hugh
Yes you should produce the Aksa again. If you hear what my new
Aksa sounds like you’d be telling yourself, **** I’ve gone the wrong
way with my new amp designs. Lol
Yes you should produce the Aksa again. If you hear what my new
Aksa sounds like you’d be telling yourself, **** I’ve gone the wrong
way with my new amp designs. Lol
The VAS is driven by voltage at the base and current at the emitter, with a very tight connection with the LTP. This makes it very stable and extremely fast.
Thanks Hugh, for all the explanations!
I think I'll soon be running out of things to investigate and question about.
Instead I will start building it 🙂
So far we had:
4R version, changing gain (lower), adjustable damping factor, balancing CCS and tuning fb compensation cap.
All are possible, the Alpha amplifier is a very flexible design!
Regards,
Danny
ED,
I think that is a tube headphone amp?
H2 at -40dB H3 -60dB H4 -60dB is typically a tube profile. With SS I try to aim for -65dB to -72dB, just on the level of audibility, the Woo product would be very tubey and perhaps to many it would be a bit too much tubey!
Hugh
Yes, you're right. It's a tube headphone amplifier.
I have seen a lot of reviews about SET with similar profile. All of them quoted with very good sound quality due low order harmonic and no use of feedback.
So, I want to know if possible "to clone" that behavior in SS. After my results in some simulatios, I think yes ! 😀
There is also Hugh’s own headphone amplifier design, the Silicon Harmony. A 5w into 8ohm SE Class A amp with zero global feedback. It has a harmonic profile similar to SET tube amp but less THD so as not to go overboard with the “Tubey” sound.
It’s the best headphone amp I have heard - although not a public DIY design. Achieves about -66dB for H2 and -90dB for H3 and nothing else. Can drive any headphone load.

It’s the best headphone amp I have heard - although not a public DIY design. Achieves about -66dB for H2 and -90dB for H3 and nothing else. Can drive any headphone load.
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Hi Hugh
Yep its me. lol
What I said is true ya, you have not discovered for yourself how good the Aksa really is but kudos to you for a great design & most important great ears my friend.
Cheers
Yep its me. lol
What I said is true ya, you have not discovered for yourself how good the Aksa really is but kudos to you for a great design & most important great ears my friend.
Cheers
X
I received the ALPHA 20 boards today. My goal is to have two 1 unit rack mount amps to match some of my other gear. A quick look for low rise fans gave a number of options. I'm sure to have many questions during the build. These amps will be paired with a WAW consisting of a Fane 15 inch fullrange and LF drivers. Expecting they will make beautiful music together.
I received the ALPHA 20 boards today. My goal is to have two 1 unit rack mount amps to match some of my other gear. A quick look for low rise fans gave a number of options. I'm sure to have many questions during the build. These amps will be paired with a WAW consisting of a Fane 15 inch fullrange and LF drivers. Expecting they will make beautiful music together.
Danny, Hugh:
Can you please summarize the changes needed for a 4ohm capable ALPHA 20? I think we need to increase bias but wasn't clear if it was 1.56amps or 1.9 amps and which output devices and what Aleph feedback resistor value?
Thanks.
This list is still for 8R ALPHA 20?:
Can you please summarize the changes needed for a 4ohm capable ALPHA 20? I think we need to increase bias but wasn't clear if it was 1.56amps or 1.9 amps and which output devices and what Aleph feedback resistor value?
Thanks.
This list is still for 8R ALPHA 20?:
R131 | R132 | R128 |
source | sensor | ccs-fb | bias
-------|---- | ----- |---------
0.33 | 0.12 | 680 | 1.95A version
0.44 | 0.12 | 510 | 1.46A version
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0.27 | 0.12 | 865 | 2.4A, feedback 22k/2k7+ 47U comp cap 22p instead of 18p, something like that 🙂 oh bigger/higher dissipation mosfets mandatory
Good timing !
I was just busy with making a summary of all the possible options 🙂
Feel free to adjust or add, I left the BB specs for you X 😉
Summary:
Additional changes for the Alpha4R: shunt fb 2k2+56uf, compensation cap 22pf
The minimum ohm load(speakers) depends also how much power(voltage) the speakers need,
less voltage=more stable at lower ohm, high voltage=only stable at higher ohm
Alpha current rule nr1: the more current it delivers the more it is stable for low ohm speakers.
For the Alpha4R use TO264 Ixys devices like IXTK88N30P and IXTK90P20P
Gain settings: max. Vin for 17 Vout (max power):
Alpha20 with shunt fb 820r: 0.69 Vin
Alpha4R with shunt fb 1k8+68uf: 1.45 Vin
Alpha4R with shunt fb 2k2+56uf: 1.74 Vin (recommended, ratio H1-15/H1-4 = 99.74)
Alpha4R with shunt fb 2k7+47uf: 2.09 Vin
The FFT profile of the Alpha4R 2k2 looks a lot like the Alpha20 8R.
Damping factor:
depends where feedback is taken: before, after(Vout) or between the sensor resistor.
For between sensor resistor: put two resistors in series (100 ohm total), parallel to the sensor resistor.
FB taken before sensor, DF: 57(8R) 33(4R)
FB taken at amp output, DF: 300 (<100Hz)
FB taken between, DF: 57-300(8R) 33-300(4R)
FB compensation cap:
Alpha20: 18pf
Alpha4R: 22pf
Tune by listening, find the value with the best spatial imaging.
When compensation cap is too high the sound is subjectively compressed and dull,
when it is too low it is subjectively expanded and tizzy but when you find the sweet spot you will find the amp takes on a 'magical' sound relative to the other positions.
For the power hungry/low sensitivity speakers there's the BB.
I took the liberty to copy from some posts, I hope there are no copyrights 🙂
Regards,
Danny
I was just busy with making a summary of all the possible options 🙂
Feel free to adjust or add, I left the BB specs for you X 😉
Summary:
Code:
| R131 | R132 | R128 | |
| source | sensor | ccs-fb | bias | speakers
--------|--------|--------|--------|--------|--------------
Alpha20 | 0.33 | 0.12 | 680 | 1.95A | 8R 5-6R dips
Alpha20 | 0.44 | 0.12 | 510 | 1.46A | 8R 6-7R dips
Alpha4R | 0.27 | 0.12 | 860 | 2.38A | 4R 3R dips
The minimum ohm load(speakers) depends also how much power(voltage) the speakers need,
less voltage=more stable at lower ohm, high voltage=only stable at higher ohm
Alpha current rule nr1: the more current it delivers the more it is stable for low ohm speakers.
For the Alpha4R use TO264 Ixys devices like IXTK88N30P and IXTK90P20P
Gain settings: max. Vin for 17 Vout (max power):
Alpha20 with shunt fb 820r: 0.69 Vin
Alpha4R with shunt fb 1k8+68uf: 1.45 Vin
Alpha4R with shunt fb 2k2+56uf: 1.74 Vin (recommended, ratio H1-15/H1-4 = 99.74)
Alpha4R with shunt fb 2k7+47uf: 2.09 Vin
The FFT profile of the Alpha4R 2k2 looks a lot like the Alpha20 8R.
Damping factor:
depends where feedback is taken: before, after(Vout) or between the sensor resistor.
For between sensor resistor: put two resistors in series (100 ohm total), parallel to the sensor resistor.
FB taken before sensor, DF: 57(8R) 33(4R)
FB taken at amp output, DF: 300 (<100Hz)
FB taken between, DF: 57-300(8R) 33-300(4R)
FB compensation cap:
Alpha20: 18pf
Alpha4R: 22pf
Tune by listening, find the value with the best spatial imaging.
When compensation cap is too high the sound is subjectively compressed and dull,
when it is too low it is subjectively expanded and tizzy but when you find the sweet spot you will find the amp takes on a 'magical' sound relative to the other positions.
For the power hungry/low sensitivity speakers there's the BB.
I took the liberty to copy from some posts, I hope there are no copyrights 🙂
Regards,
Danny
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Wonderful summary Danny, thank you!
For the feedback resistor why is there a change in the feedback shunt cap (47u, 56u, 68u)? Can't we just use a big 1000uF can be done with it? Or is that big size detrimental? The 1000uF is what is currently on the principal design.
For the feedback resistor why is there a change in the feedback shunt cap (47u, 56u, 68u)? Can't we just use a big 1000uF can be done with it? Or is that big size detrimental? The 1000uF is what is currently on the principal design.
Alpha4R with shunt fb 2k2+56uf: 1.74 Vin (recommended, ratio H1-15/H1-4 = 99.74)
This is R101 and C103 ?
Do
This is R101 and C103 ?
Do
It's part of the fb high-pass filter.
47uf is what Hugh recommended for the 2k7.
On the ac analysis I see it's flat to 10Hz,
lower, it starts to roll off.
1000uf seems too much, there's no roll off, FR is flat down to 1Hz.
If it is detrimental, that's a question for Hugh 🙂
47uf is what Hugh recommended for the 2k7.
On the ac analysis I see it's flat to 10Hz,
lower, it starts to roll off.
1000uf seems too much, there's no roll off, FR is flat down to 1Hz.
If it is detrimental, that's a question for Hugh 🙂
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Alpha4R with shunt fb 2k2+56uf: 1.74 Vin (recommended, ratio H1-15/H1-4 = 99.74)
This is R101 and C103 ?
No, it's R111, C111 in this image.
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Danny,
Thank you for putting all of the important guidelines for the different version alpha amplifiers in that one post, it is priceless!
Thank you for putting all of the important guidelines for the different version alpha amplifiers in that one post, it is priceless!
It's part of the fb high-pass filter.
47uf is what Hugh recommended for the 2k7.
On the ac analysis I see it's flat to 10Hz,
lower, it starts to roll off.
1000uf seems too much, there's no roll off, FR is flat down to 1Hz.
If it is detrimental, that's a question for Hugh 🙂
Thanks, I recall Hugh saying a 220uF was plenty. Also, the voltage is not that high as there is the divider, so for 10x divider it sees no more than 5v or so. This allows us to use super low ESR caps like 4x100uF 16v oscons for improved tight bass response.
Thank you Danny your figures are all correct.
47uF is acceptable with 2k7 but if you want less than 10Hz you might increase it to 100uF.
I was set up a list in a couple of hours; just now I have busy day!
HD
47uF is acceptable with 2k7 but if you want less than 10Hz you might increase it to 100uF.
I was set up a list in a couple of hours; just now I have busy day!
HD
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