Advice on meeting women.

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The most efficient tool by far is internet dating. You can present yourself in the best light possible and when you gain someone's attention, it is generally undivided. It also allows you to create an amazingly organized reference structure. That said, never discount casual conversations with women you meet in real life, if she is talking to you she will more than likely entertain the thought of having you inside her. When you find yourself in one of these conversations, be particularly attentive to the feedback you get. If you are, you will discover any of your missteps as they happen and make the immediate correction. Do this even when the woman is ugly or otherwise undesirable, it's good practice and as has been mentioned before, it's always good to be seen with a partner. If she's pretty, the female will think you have something going on and even if she isn't, you will inspire sympathy or her competitive spirit, both of which can be made to work in your favor. Here is a real example of how the competitive spirit works in a female, I saw one guy nab this amazing babe by pretending to be gay and not into her. She could not accept that a hairy man bottom was better than her cookie and she made a point of it. Women display their beauty and flex it the same way men do their strength or intellect.
 
For those of you that say that this is not the place to ask this I would disagree. I think a lot of us have been in the exact situations have found a way out of them. The problem I see is there is no one answer.

My biggest regret, is that I spent too much time stressing over finding a "relationship" that I didn't fully appreciate what I did have. So stop stressing over it. You recently moved so get out and meet people, anyone, increase your friend circle, join clubs, be content. This will help you meet women but also may help out with finding work.

Be honest with yourself, are you looking for a committed, meaningful relationship or a fling? If it the relationship, be patient, from everything I know it can't be rushed. Opputunities for both WILL come along.

This is the sticker, you have to be open to it and recognize the opportunity. The biggest difference between guys who are successful and not is being able to recognize opportunities, this is true for any aspect of life through which we classify success, be it love, money, power, knowledge or fulfillment. No matter who you are, or what your situation there are oppurtunities to better your stead in life.

If you are always second guessing yourself and focussed on being unhappy with your situation you will not recognize opportunities when they come.

Saying this though, it doesn't hurt making your own opportunities or increasing your chances.

I 100% agree with joining a dance class, with partner dancing, it is like killing all birds with one stone and will set you up with opportunities for life. I wish I had of had the foresight for this.
 
One other thing, be honest above all. Short term it may seem good but it always bites you in the end.

You don't need to be anybody but who you are. If you don't like who you are change it, but don't equate yourself with your situation. If you like yourself but are unhappy with your situation, change your situation not yourself.
 
Dance classes? Hahahah. I must be in a bad crowd 'cause most men in dance classes/clubs I know are alone and desperate. Somehow it's quite a few of them too.

The little I'd claim to know sums up in two things:
- Arrogance and Confidence are often very hard to distinguish
- Female response is reversely proportional to the attention you show. The best responses come when you don't have any intentions at all. Usually when your mind is occupied with something else and back in its primal, survival mode.
 
That might be true, but most women go dancing to .. dance. Learning to dance might be a good idea, relying on out dance class and club to get the attention of a girl, not so much.

Just imagine how much a girl that can't dance well will like you afterwards.

Anyway, I'm translating the words of my GF, who's been dancing for the past 10 years. Take it or leave it, none of my business.
 
This is Mrs. mickeymoose butting into this thread. What we met, he was one of the few men I had ever met who actually listened to what I said. Hearing is not the same as listening. When you meet someone you are interested in, don't talk too much but listen carefully - you will see a difference. Mrs. E.
 
This is Mrs. mickeymoose butting into this thread. What we met, he was one of the few men I had ever met who actually listened to what I said. Hearing is not the same as listening. When you meet someone you are interested in, don't talk too much but listen carefully - you will see a difference. Mrs. E.

That's a dangerous thing to say here. People will start optimizing listening environments, playing reference material, comparing sources... but worst of all they will start trying to tweak...
 
Online dating is AWFUL. A MISERABLE EXPERIENCE. Sending thirty honest messages and getting one or two replies. One word answers, and then them not ever wanting to meet in person. I can't do that again.

I have no "game". I would play if I knew how, but I don't. And at 25 I'm not sure how to learn. I am less mature than a 12 year old boy, when it comes to the social game.

Hey man,

Like some people already said - it's about selling yourself. Try the following:

1. Work out - there are definitely women at gyms who you can possibly meet. This will also build confidence, better looks and a conversation piece when called upon. Let's be real - looks is what women notice first. And when you're out there, you want to be noticed (good type of notice).

2. Job - again, not only a conversation piece, but will also boost your confidence once more since you're making money. Women who look for serious relationships factor this as well. You're a college grad, so this is already a good thing.

3. I don't know if you believe in God or higher beings or what-not, but a place of worship is also a potential place to meet nice women. This is also a great place to develop social skills as they are more forgiving than say, a lounge, club or the like.

4. Hobbies - We all love audio. Picking up a guitar or practicing with people (see #3) is not only fun, but will also make you more interesting.

5. Game - Confidence and swag are key. These are learned through experience. No theory can help - you just have to go out there. Don't lose hope if one girl says no. There are billions of women here on earth. You need only one. Unless you want to become a player.

6. Don't try to be something that you're not. It'll backfire. Fast. Why? Because people who pretend already look and sound awkward to begin with. Not to mention if the person you're trying to impress ends up knowing more about the topic than you - you know what I mean? lol. 😀

Good luck, man! It's fun out there!
 
I'd rather get cut to ribbons than ignored.

I've worked at bike shops off and on for several years. Customers are either men, or men buying bikes with their girlfriends. If a single woman does come in she is dropping off her husband's bike for repair.

It's just so strange how it seems that no matter what I do, I end up surrounded by men. That's the real issue. It's not a matter of taking the wrong book to a bar, it's picking the wrong bar.

This may be coming down to extraordinarily bad luck.

Better get that "bad luck" mentality out. Think positively and follow the good advice listed here.
 
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