Without the help of others, like yourself, it's not so easy for the likes of me!
Maybe there's a glimmer of light in your comment above. Are you saying that 150cm from the side walls gives the mid range qualities of the Ektas a fighting chance. If so, then it puts them at the top of my three, given that LF reflection issues may be applicable to all three.
Since Giralfino also has a preference for the Ekta Grande I'd be interested to know what you like about it. The 741/subs perhaps stray just outside my construction parameters, with the Hypex modules to deal with. If I knew that the Hypex was a surefire way to deal with LF issues, I might look again; but I'd want to know what Giralfino thinks of them too!
I wouldn't jump to conclusions, that's not what I stated. Your side walls are not really a problem, I guess. Try pulling your speakers out a meter (backside) from the front wall and compare with the original position. Sure you will notice difference, not only in bass response.
And to the Ekta: to me it seems enough for normal listening. The other two clearly will do higher levels. But at the cost of taking quite some space which you also could use for some diffusor or absorber applications. Those obviously would bring you much more...
Hypex subs don't deal with LF issues. Multisub solutions do. But you need three or four subs for that.
And to the Ekta: to me it seems enough for normal listening. The other two clearly will do higher levels. But at the cost of taking quite some space which you also could use for some diffusor or absorber applications. Those obviously would bring you much more...
Hypex subs don't deal with LF issues. Multisub solutions do. But you need three or four subs for that.
Don't worry, I didn't take it the wrong way 🙂
Talking about value...With Troels' recent designs he's not been publishing the crossover components' values, which he's obviously not obligated to do. After all, he put in the time and effort to come up with the design, with numerous iterations I imagine.
So while the part kits are sold with some markups, building one of the recent designs I'd still mostly be paying for the materials and drivers, which is far far off what a comparable commercial speaker would cost.
Talking about value...With Troels' recent designs he's not been publishing the crossover components' values, which he's obviously not obligated to do. After all, he put in the time and effort to come up with the design, with numerous iterations I imagine.
So while the part kits are sold with some markups, building one of the recent designs I'd still mostly be paying for the materials and drivers, which is far far off what a comparable commercial speaker would cost.
Take the total build cost of any of his/ Jantzen's kits and add 60 to 80%, and that should put you in the ballpark to buy a comparable finished speaker from Big Speaker Co. Inc.
Wow, finally many opinions about DTQWT which I own and can give a good opinion.
So I'll start reading.
So I'll start reading.
No, you are biased too much 😉
But really, would you place your speakers close to the front wall and if yes, why?
But really, would you place your speakers close to the front wall and if yes, why?
Welcome academia50! When you've finished reading, I will be very happy indeed to hear what you have to say about room positioning and walls and so on. looking forward to it - I can't wait!
Here my opinions to several comments, without quotes, not to make this too extensive.
They only refer to my DTQWTII
Moving them too far away from the walls (12 '' and up) will bring out the deepest bass. In my case, I have them at 1 meter, because my living room is large but difficult to locate. So I decided to compensate with subwoofers.
High efficiency is important if you have low power tube or SS amplifiers, I chose a little more watts than what a SET delivers (Troels himself recommends as a good match PP with KT-88 or similar) Keep in mind that they were designed for low powers, which does not mean that you cannot use powerful amplifiers, but always controlling the volume. An adult will not spoil them, the delivered SPL is too high, but if young people will use them, they must be alerted. The actual limit is given by the maximum allowable power of the JA8008 HMQ driver.
It is a speaker of great realism in the mid / high zone, the conjunction with the tweeter and waveguide gives it a very wide directivity and an excellent sound stage.
The issue of investing in quality components in the crossover network is justified if you have the rest of the system to go with it.
OP, this is only the first thing that occurs to me to comment, I will gladly answer other questions.
Especially since my last name is of Italian origin ....
Tip for your room: The TQWTII with tubes (excellence in midrange and treble), and the subwoofer with Hipex de Troels - or similar - (depth and solid attacks in low frequencies (punch). Not only for organ music or HT that subs are used, consult a table of the range of low notes in classical instruments, for example a double bass, if you like jazz. "Walking" must be heard and felt!
They only refer to my DTQWTII
Moving them too far away from the walls (12 '' and up) will bring out the deepest bass. In my case, I have them at 1 meter, because my living room is large but difficult to locate. So I decided to compensate with subwoofers.
High efficiency is important if you have low power tube or SS amplifiers, I chose a little more watts than what a SET delivers (Troels himself recommends as a good match PP with KT-88 or similar) Keep in mind that they were designed for low powers, which does not mean that you cannot use powerful amplifiers, but always controlling the volume. An adult will not spoil them, the delivered SPL is too high, but if young people will use them, they must be alerted. The actual limit is given by the maximum allowable power of the JA8008 HMQ driver.
It is a speaker of great realism in the mid / high zone, the conjunction with the tweeter and waveguide gives it a very wide directivity and an excellent sound stage.
The issue of investing in quality components in the crossover network is justified if you have the rest of the system to go with it.
OP, this is only the first thing that occurs to me to comment, I will gladly answer other questions.
Especially since my last name is of Italian origin ....
Tip for your room: The TQWTII with tubes (excellence in midrange and treble), and the subwoofer with Hipex de Troels - or similar - (depth and solid attacks in low frequencies (punch). Not only for organ music or HT that subs are used, consult a table of the range of low notes in classical instruments, for example a double bass, if you like jazz. "Walking" must be heard and felt!
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re:' "depends how you listen?" ' - you said it here: 'Mostly, I listen further away, closer to the opposite wall with my back to the speakers', so perhaps imaging isn't a priority for you? If so, the large mid in the 3W shouldn't be a problem
Academia50, I love jazz of the 50's, in particular, and as to '"walking" must be heard and felt" I couldn't agree more! Your comment about 12'' or more from the wall seems to concur with the advice that Troels has given on this design - and he used it as his mains in his 25m2 room for two years. Advice about the volume control well noted - thanks and it's not a problem. As to subs, I'm trying to avoid them and keep it simple.
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As to subs, I'm trying to avoid them and keep it simple.
I thought the same until I added them.
Troels wrote: "DTQWTII" is basically a two-way with the addition of a subwoofer. "
Well, in my experience two Eminence 10 "speakers or a single 12" Eminence speaker cannot do 20 hz F3, even if they are in a corner, they will only reinforce at the top, but many people can live perfectly without hearing sub frequencies.
The problem is that as I lose my hearing above, I must compensate below! (In something you have to entertain) 😀
As to subs, I'm trying to avoid them and keep it simple.
I thought the same until I added them.
Troels wrote: "DTQWTII" is basically a two-way with the addition of a subwoofer. "
Well, in my experience two Eminence 10 "speakers or a single 12" Eminence speaker cannot do 20 hz F3, even if they are in a corner, they will only reinforce at the top, but many people can live perfectly without hearing sub frequencies.
The problem is that as I lose my hearing above, I must compensate below! (In something you have to entertain) 😀
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