A problem that plagues most coaxials

Icg, well the 800a i used wasn't as you described: their was switch on the rear panels for high contour /low eq/ level (+4dbu/-10dbv) but no continous control on front ( there was a led on faceplate though).

Maybe there was different series, i've seen pictures of 'blue' faceplate and different logo badge tha n the one i used( they were dark grey as my passive)?

I agree IF i do something with the 2046 it'll be active. Dsp/ active filtering hybrid probably. Or full dsp with Fir ... i've got multiple choice for this!

But i'm not sure i will bother: i like their size as is and the fact they are analog ( i've still got analog sources, TT, Tape, mixing desks,...).

Before covid i contempled activate them, cloning the filter/amplifier. I think i will finalize this first.
 
I have to apologise, I did a quick search and got as a result the Tannoy Gold 7/8 - but not described as Gold (though the obnoxious 'design' should have obvious, since it visibly said "Gold 8"). I don't know how that happened because after your replay I was confused, searched again today and it did not show up with the same picture of the speaker. I'm really sorry.

That's the speakers I saw yesterday:

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Yes the latest Gold monitors are strange. I believe the drivers are good and they play loud etc but being assembled by Behringer I think quality suffer, like port noise and lose plastic. Cannot be compared to the old 800. I have S8LCR myself I believe are the same as 800 series which again is similar to Profile 636, definition 500 etc I really like this driver.
I’m having deja vu. 2046 and 2064 are slightly different drivers, the later with only 4 screws and a bit more recent while the 2046 is from the 800 series and with 6 bolts.

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Oh yes their latest models!

My cousin just bought a pair. So far he like them ( nearfield project studio). I agree the box seems lower grade than what they made before. I have not heard them yet. Maybe later this year.

That said if the driver is based on their previous generation (revolution xt) it should be good. Some members here praised the 6,5' from this serie.

About the 'smaller' coax monitors offer atm the Kali IN-8 is imho very interesting. A nice way to have an affordable small transportable 3way.

Nice setup Fabricadetabaco! Yes they are different than 2046. But they should share some similarity soundwise. This polypropylene membrane have bad rep upon 'purist' and it's all good that way...
Their real issue is the z offset between both drivers which makes passive filtering 'tricky' if you want 'kiss' but with a competent dsp ( or the active filter Tannoy implemented in the active circuit) it's a non issue.

The 1200 didn't have this issue and the compression driver is different, more 'meaty'. First Led Zeppelin's lp(s) sounds great on them: cymbals have 'weight' and definition beside being passive, they sound very correct. And they like big transistors amp, i wonder how they would behave with good class D. They are close to DMT15mk2 to me. Maybe not as resolving? i never compared both at same time so maybe it is just bias.
 
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I agree, the Behringer influence was quite a step back in some regards. Okay, they've made the speakers cheaper but I don't like the look of them, not one bit. Yes, the Behringer stuff works and the bad image of the past (mostly for being unrelyable) does not apply anymore. Their new synths are really good, the PA stuff works and is cost effective. But seeing these Gold speakers, I've got the distinct impression they want to use the Tannoy name for cash grab. Okay, I haven't heard them, maybe they sound good but I expect something else from speakers from Tannoy. Maybe it's just me (getting old I'm afraid) but I'm disappointed.
 
The S8LCR pics above inst from my setup btw, just a pic I found online. Mine are in champagne wood color and not black. After looking at pics on 2046 and 2064 they look awefully similar with a dual magnet system (dedicated smaller magnet for the HF) indicating a longer throat or a dome rather than say the shared-magnet types of monitor gold, little red which probably use a cone HF etc. Im sure these design decisions matter.

I have not seen the inside of the latest Gold monitor series but Im afraids its not of same quality as revolution xt series, its probably steel frame. Its course also very interesting that similar to the new gold monitor series launch was with the Behringer merge a lot of Tannoy guys started Fyne Audio launching a competing series to the rev xt.

I find it very weird that within the same company there are so many variants of coax concepts, it must have had a huge cost in R&D and fabrication sourcing all these. Makes one wonder if they are sourced from OEMs, similar to the PA types. To me in DIY I find spare parts and replacement options to be important, hence I want to find drivers that allow replacement of the CD easily so im only focusing on larger PA types now not looking back to hifi.




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Looking at current offerings by reputable manufacturers, 18sound, FaitalPro, etc.

Most if not all good sized coaxials, 12" 15", even 10" seem to have ugly behaviour in the FR at the upper range of the woofer, where it needs to cross to the CD.

Has anyone any idea, done any research, what is it that contributes to this ragged response in the upper range? It seems to be consistent. A sharp dip, and then some ugly peaks.

Is it the horn mouth opening and expansion in the center?
The deep cone profile?
What the heck?
Why can't they make it right, there seems to be an inherent issue...
Sorry about the late response. The dip is caused by the woofer radiation "falling into" the central horn, reflecting off of the tweeter, and causing cancellation. This is not a maybe or speculation, but confirmed with measurements. It is what causes harshness in, for example, the Eminence coaxials. Yes the Eminence horns are rudimentary, but the harshness is caused by this phenomenon. If you think the dip looks bad, look at the butchery using tone bursts. Blank off the horn and measure the woofer. Nice and smooth.