Can I get pure ASIO player when used Console?
I want get pure ASIO player, where players (foobar at the moment) autput is asio (waveterminal 192M )and runs plugins with Console in ASIO I/O mode. Now it is impossible use the same ASIO driver the same time in both?!
I want get pure ASIO player, where players (foobar at the moment) autput is asio (waveterminal 192M )and runs plugins with Console in ASIO I/O mode. Now it is impossible use the same ASIO driver the same time in both?!
Re: Can I get pure ASIO player when used Console?
Depends on your sound card, yes (if you have multiclient ASIO drivers), but you will need to limit the channels that console uses to channels not being used by ASIO.
What kind of internal routing does your sound card have and can it loopback outputs?
If you look at the link I gave above you will see what I am doing. I use both Media Player and Foobar.
EDIT: I just took a quick look at the manual and it looks like it may work but you will have to play with directwire.
walkwalk said:
Depends on your sound card, yes (if you have multiclient ASIO drivers), but you will need to limit the channels that console uses to channels not being used by ASIO.
What kind of internal routing does your sound card have and can it loopback outputs?
If you look at the link I gave above you will see what I am doing. I use both Media Player and Foobar.
EDIT: I just took a quick look at the manual and it looks like it may work but you will have to play with directwire.
Re: Control RME's TotalMix via windows master volume
You could add Thuneau's Allocator to that list - its a little buggy, and maybe not being upgraded anymore, but cheaper than the others. I use it and like it. It doesn't work with FIR filters, but rather spl plots from your system. I just bought Soundeasy, which can supposedly do something similar, and is more geared towards measurement and loudspeaker design.
ScottGardner said:
You could add Thuneau's Allocator to that list - its a little buggy, and maybe not being upgraded anymore, but cheaper than the others. I use it and like it. It doesn't work with FIR filters, but rather spl plots from your system. I just bought Soundeasy, which can supposedly do something similar, and is more geared towards measurement and loudspeaker design.
Does anyone know where I can get a 16hz-20Khz sweep file to use with Console and CurveEQ? I'm a noob to all of this, I've installed both programs and been having a play with it all. Hardware wise I'm using a Behringer UB802 and ECM8000. I have a USB DAC, while input is sent thru the auxilury input of my HDA xplosion soundcard.
I assume I just use a software player to launch the sweep wav file after pressing the capture button in CurveEQ?
I've worked out how to inverse a capture but also need to know how to route audio playback software thru Console so that DRC is applied to all audio playback of music..
Any help would be appreciated..
regards
Raja
I assume I just use a software player to launch the sweep wav file after pressing the capture button in CurveEQ?
I've worked out how to inverse a capture but also need to know how to route audio playback software thru Console so that DRC is applied to all audio playback of music..
Any help would be appreciated..
regards
Raja
You can use the measurement suite in Audiolense (www.juicehifi.com).
If you just want a sine log sweep, you can just start a measurement and there will be generated sweep and inverse files that are stored in the measurement folder.
Or you can run through the whole measurement and export the extracted impulse response as 16 bit pcm - one file per channel.
If you just want a sine log sweep, you can just start a measurement and there will be generated sweep and inverse files that are stored in the measurement folder.
Or you can run through the whole measurement and export the extracted impulse response as 16 bit pcm - one file per channel.
Thanks to Bernt, I managed to get everything up and running. The results are quite spectacular really. I did not expect a huge change, but I'm pleasently surprised.
Audiolense is quite easy to configure (although I'm only using 2 channel with no XO). Current test speakers are Supravox Bicone Sig in an open baffle. These are augmented by a rather under par Logitech subwoofer until my new VMPS unit arrives.
For a player I'm using either the Convolver in Foobar and WMP with the Vista 64 OS. For anyone thinking of spending an equivalent amount of money on a front end player, don't discount a PC based system with DRC. It's leaps and bounds ahead of most commercial offerings that don'thave the correction features.
regards
Raja
Audiolense is quite easy to configure (although I'm only using 2 channel with no XO). Current test speakers are Supravox Bicone Sig in an open baffle. These are augmented by a rather under par Logitech subwoofer until my new VMPS unit arrives.
For a player I'm using either the Convolver in Foobar and WMP with the Vista 64 OS. For anyone thinking of spending an equivalent amount of money on a front end player, don't discount a PC based system with DRC. It's leaps and bounds ahead of most commercial offerings that don'thave the correction features.
regards
Raja
Considering a Christmas gift for myself
Friends,
I have been using my RME HDSP9632 with AEB-O for almost two years now. I use 6-channels for my three way stereo speakers and it's time for an upgrade.
I would like to find a solution which will allow me to use 12 channels, so two-way centre and rear speakers to be added.
So I am wondering if it is possible to use two E-MU 1616m using Console for the routing. I would like to run the system at 96kHz.
Any thoughts, comments?
Friends,
I have been using my RME HDSP9632 with AEB-O for almost two years now. I use 6-channels for my three way stereo speakers and it's time for an upgrade.
I would like to find a solution which will allow me to use 12 channels, so two-way centre and rear speakers to be added.
So I am wondering if it is possible to use two E-MU 1616m using Console for the routing. I would like to run the system at 96kHz.
Any thoughts, comments?
I'm not sure about the 1616m but the 1820m only allowed one card and dock giving upto 8 outputs at 96Khz or 10 at 44.1/48Khz. Would have been great if they'd wrote the drivers to allow chaining of hardware for an excellent value system with lots of channels.
The Delta 1010 allows for two cards to give 12-16 outputs but beyond that your looking at more expensive digital cards with outboard DAC's such as the RME 9652 and Lynx AES16e cards. Probably the most inexpensive DAC is the 8 channel Behringer ADA8000 at £150 each, as a bonus you also get 8 ADC's. So two ADA8000 plus RME9652 would be around £600 for 16 in and out. At the upper end you have converters such as the Lynx Aurora 16, Apogee DA16x or RME ADI-192 which range from £1500 to £2500.
Since your wanting 96Khz compatible then I wouldn't recommend ADAT since each ADAT pipe supports a maximum of 48Khz and you have to use 2 pipes to attain 96Khz or 4 for 192Khz. As you might imagine, this quickly eats up your channels. Much better here is the AES transport which is designed from the ground up to offer 192Khz(or less) on a single channel. Problem is AES equipment can be expensive.
The Delta 1010 allows for two cards to give 12-16 outputs but beyond that your looking at more expensive digital cards with outboard DAC's such as the RME 9652 and Lynx AES16e cards. Probably the most inexpensive DAC is the 8 channel Behringer ADA8000 at £150 each, as a bonus you also get 8 ADC's. So two ADA8000 plus RME9652 would be around £600 for 16 in and out. At the upper end you have converters such as the Lynx Aurora 16, Apogee DA16x or RME ADI-192 which range from £1500 to £2500.
Since your wanting 96Khz compatible then I wouldn't recommend ADAT since each ADAT pipe supports a maximum of 48Khz and you have to use 2 pipes to attain 96Khz or 4 for 192Khz. As you might imagine, this quickly eats up your channels. Much better here is the AES transport which is designed from the ground up to offer 192Khz(or less) on a single channel. Problem is AES equipment can be expensive.
Thanks a lot for the quick response Shin!
I have an old Delta 1010LT somewhere, not so sure about the quality of the card though.
I am trying to get some good sound without not spending too much (what a contradiction).
The simplest solution is to go for your first setup with the rme hdsp9632, aeb and the AO4S-192. Of course I will then have to satisfy myself with 48kHz, but it would give me 14 channels.
The ADA8000 seems like fantastic value. Just a question regarding ADAT. I can use a single ADAT pipe for 8 channels at 48kHz, but at 96kHz I only get half as many channels?
How does the sound quality of the ADA8000 compare with the 1820m and HDSP9632? Also if you compare against the Fireface 800 how would you rank different products?
Lastly while the Lynx AES16e cards are not too pricey my fear is that the price of the DAC is a deal breaker for me. Are you aware on some good value AES DACs?
I have an old Delta 1010LT somewhere, not so sure about the quality of the card though.
I am trying to get some good sound without not spending too much (what a contradiction).
The simplest solution is to go for your first setup with the rme hdsp9632, aeb and the AO4S-192. Of course I will then have to satisfy myself with 48kHz, but it would give me 14 channels.
The ADA8000 seems like fantastic value. Just a question regarding ADAT. I can use a single ADAT pipe for 8 channels at 48kHz, but at 96kHz I only get half as many channels?
How does the sound quality of the ADA8000 compare with the 1820m and HDSP9632? Also if you compare against the Fireface 800 how would you rank different products?
Lastly while the Lynx AES16e cards are not too pricey my fear is that the price of the DAC is a deal breaker for me. Are you aware on some good value AES DACs?
One more thing. I relocated to China (Shanghai) in August. There are some interesting chinese hifi brands that are emerging. I am planning to use two of these bad boys to power my speakers: http://www.jungson.com/content/product_pages/av1000d.htm
That's 88 kg of power amplifier...
That's 88 kg of power amplifier...
ackcheng said:
Hong Kong is still way cheaper in general than China for Chinese audio brands. But there are fantastic bargains here as well.
These monsters can be bought for RMB 8.000 in Shanghai:
http://www.xindak.com/english/products/showditail.asp?id=265
In Australia the same Amp will cost RMB 19.500:
http://www.focussoundvision.com.au/productdetail.asp?id=581
Someone is getting rich on these amps.
Regarding pc xo (warning, starter question)>
For music playback I use my pc with Foobar.
If I understand correctly for a pc 3-way xo all I need is a decent soundcard, 6 channel av amp (or 3 poweramps) and xo software. For music that should work fine.
But will it work with movies?
I use my pc with kmplayer for that.
Will a pc xo work for foobar and for kmplayer?
Regarding pc xo (warning, starter question)>
For music playback I use my pc with Foobar.
If I understand correctly for a pc 3-way xo all I need is a decent soundcard, 6 channel av amp (or 3 poweramps) and xo software. For music that should work fine.
But will it work with movies?
I use my pc with kmplayer for that.
Will a pc xo work for foobar and for kmplayer?
NurEinTier said:
Yup, with that you will have Active three-way stereo speakers (what I have at the moment). I use my system mostly for movies, it will certainly work but of course only in Stereo.
Movies @ plain stereo is fine by me.
I'll try pc xo with a cheap av amp first.
If I like it I'll upgrade to a multi core pc and power-amps.
Thanks Ninfendo.
If I don't like it I can allways grab a pro 3-way xo like the Behringer2496 and try that.
I'll try pc xo with a cheap av amp first.
If I like it I'll upgrade to a multi core pc and power-amps.
Thanks Ninfendo.
If I don't like it I can allways grab a pro 3-way xo like the Behringer2496 and try that.
Re: Thanks a lot for the quick response Shin!
Some good results to be had with cheaper cards its just once you start wanting more channels that things get more expensive quite quickly.
I had a 9632 + AO4S-192 a few years ago. Nice cards but just to make you aware that the AEB expansion uses lesser quality converters and doesn't do 96Khz.
That's pretty much it. Moving to higher sample rates halves(96Khz) or quarters(192Khz) the total number ADAT pipes available on the card. So if you going with the ADAT and 96Khz, be sure you've got a card with lots of ADAT such as the RME 9652.
Not heard the ADA8000 so couldn't comment there. 9632 I'd rank below the 1820m and the Fireface is about equal to the EMU or maybe just slightly better.
I use the Lynx AES16e SRC with Aurora 16, very nice sound overall. I looked into most AES options and none were particularly cheap for 16 channels. Its the latest thing, that and MADI interfaces.
Ninfendo said:
Some good results to be had with cheaper cards its just once you start wanting more channels that things get more expensive quite quickly.
I had a 9632 + AO4S-192 a few years ago. Nice cards but just to make you aware that the AEB expansion uses lesser quality converters and doesn't do 96Khz.
That's pretty much it. Moving to higher sample rates halves(96Khz) or quarters(192Khz) the total number ADAT pipes available on the card. So if you going with the ADAT and 96Khz, be sure you've got a card with lots of ADAT such as the RME 9652.
Not heard the ADA8000 so couldn't comment there. 9632 I'd rank below the 1820m and the Fireface is about equal to the EMU or maybe just slightly better.
I use the Lynx AES16e SRC with Aurora 16, very nice sound overall. I looked into most AES options and none were particularly cheap for 16 channels. Its the latest thing, that and MADI interfaces.
Ninfendo,
An good alternative for 12 channel DA could be to use two LynxTwo B cards. Considering the sound quality you will get, it is also very cost efficient.
An good alternative for 12 channel DA could be to use two LynxTwo B cards. Considering the sound quality you will get, it is also very cost efficient.
BerntR said:
Erm, a single Lynx 2B is £700 here in the UK. I wouldn't call £1400 cost efficient for 12 analogue outputs and 4 inputs. Maybe they're cheaper in the EU?
Well, compared to an Aurora 16 setup it is much cheaper per DA channel. And the sound quality is very good.
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