737 Max

[chrisb]

Thanks for that link - lots of juicy red meat there.

 

[zman01]

lots of juicy red meat there.

I thought you had taken red meat off the menu?

 

[chrisb]

OK, ya got me - a figure of speech.

 

[6L6]

This is absolutely worth reading.

What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max? - The New York Times

 

[gpauk]

Thanks - excellent article!

 

[TheGimp]

The acting administrator of the FAA was on the news last night stating the first flight of the MAX 737 will be with him at the controls. He is a former commercial pilot and he is already using a flight simulator for training.

 

[Charles Darwin]

Hope they fixed the simulator.

One problem that did transpire was that the force needed for manual trim in the simulator bore practically no resemblance to the force needed in real life.

 

[chrisb]

More important question might be who will sign off on a couple of hours of iPad videos being sufficient training for those companies not willing / able to afford the down time in the simulators?

Sorry, not sorry about not falling over myself giving Boeing and the FAA the benefit of the doubt here, but I’d still be a bit concerned about MCAS2.0. Exactly how many pilots are currently certified for 737 class, how many have already have simulator training with the new system, and what would the backlog be to reduce that deficit to zero? Until then, it’d still feel like Russian roulette to me to board any Max series.

 

[gpapag]

Everything will run smoothly from now on.

Boeing Chairman, President and CEO Dennis Muilenburg and Boeing Board of Directors Reaffirm Company's Commitment to Safety - Sep 25, 2019

George

 

[Refugee1]

Airbus are at it now however they are worried about them being tail heavy.
Why Airlines Are Losing Weight On The Airbus 320neo

 

[billshurv]

If you load an aircraft wrong the CoG gets messed up. I've been on a lightly loaded widebody flight from USA where passengers were explicitly told not to change seat until we were at cruising altitude. I don't see this as a 320Neo problem really.

 

[Refugee1]

The worst problem appears to be at the boarding gate where the front passengers get off first. They were worried that the front of the plane might go up in the air during unloading.
I see no reason why they can't clip the nose wheel to the ground as this would also make the airport safer in windy weather.

 

[Charles Darwin]

I don't see much of a problem, let alone a potentially life threatening one.

 

[Refugee1]

Nothing should happen if passengers are only allowed to leave from the front door as they will line up at the front of the plane anyway.
The only difference I can think of is when the plane is climbing out of an airport where the pilot would need to push the column forward a little bit more for a short time.

 

[6L6]

I see no reason why they can't clip the nose wheel to the ground as this would also make the airport safer in windy weather.

Nope. You use a tailstand;

 

[Fonebones]

Is there another problem creeping in?
Jets have to be inspected: Cracks discovered in 737 NG components | aeroTELEGRAPH

 

[Refugee1]

Nope. You use a tailstand;

I would be much more concerned about that patch of liquid on the ground.
Is it fuel or oil?
I did not know that modern planes had prop points under there tails. That is a new one on me.

 

[6L6]

Somebody probably spilled the lavatory cart...

 

[Refugee1]

Blue loo water

 

[jan.didden]

If you load an aircraft wrong the CoG gets messed up. I've been on a lightly loaded widebody flight from USA where passengers were explicitly told not to change seat until we were at cruising altitude. I don't see this as a 320Neo problem really.

Sometimes they just say that to avoid people running about finding the best seats during takeoff. It's a safety risk but not for the weight distribution.

Same when you are asked to turn off your phones during take off and landing. Not for electrical interference, just to make sure people are paying attention when something untoward happens and crew has to act fast.

Jan