Another query regarding the power transformer. Post #180 of Juma says 40vdc so backward calculating makes it 35vac secondary winding trafo but what amperes do you guys suggest. If using a single transformer to power both the channels should I get something like 0-35v @6A *2 dual secondary rated around 400VA or is it more if using with 8ohm speakers?
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I got the calculation wrong here and it should be like 0-28vac 5A dual secondary to make it around 300VA for both the channels. I hope this is more than sufficient for optimal bias. By the way how is the bias done as I do not see any biasing resistor, so can I use like 1R 3-5w resistor in series with the supply voltage and check the current flow in mV across this resistor? How much should I be aiming for?Another query regarding the power transformer. Post #180 of Juma says 40vdc so backward calculating makes it 35vac secondary winding trafo but what amperes do you guys suggest. If using a single transformer to power both the channels should I get something like 0-35v @6A *2 dual secondary rated around 400VA or is it more if using with 8ohm speakers?
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Moving the end of C4 to the VAS collector effectively misses the o/p stage out of the feedback loop at HF. I can see how that helps phase margin.
Have you tried?
As I pointed out earlier in this thread only in this configuration my setup became stable.
Amperes you can back out from the impedance of your speakers. I'm OK with 4.5A per channel @ 40V.I got the calculation wrong here and it should be like 0-28vac 5A dual secondary to make it around 300VA for both the channels. I hope this is more than sufficient for optimal bias. By the way how is the bias done as I do not see any biasing resistor, so can I use like 1R 3-5w resistor in series with the supply voltage and check the current flow in mV across this resistor? How much should I be aiming for?
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The voltage over D1 controls the bias. In my build I wanted something I could regulate and used a TL431 instead of a blue LED.
I use 700mA bias mostly b/c this gives the maximum temperature I am happy with on the heat sink.
You can use different bias current values and see how you like it. I found that at somewhat valiant listening volumes more is better maybe up to 500mA. Beyond that I didn't feel more makes a difference. I gave it 700mA because I can.
Thanks @ElFishi I am also targetting for 0.7A bias using pair of Green LEDs. Lets see how it goes as still a long drawn build waiting for J310 and also the transformer.
Have you tried?
As I pointed out earlier in this thread only in this configuration my setup became stable.
Yes, I have tried it, but it didn't help.
I'm holding off with further testing until my J310s arrive and get fitted.
(On a separate suject: I'm wondering why this thread is in the Passlabs section?)
I believe Juma likes the audience better in this section of the site. I do.Yes, I have tried it, but it didn't help.
I'm holding off with further testing until my J310s arrive and get fitted.
(On a separate suject: I'm wondering why this thread is in the Passlabs section?)
My thumbnail calculation is the DC will be 1.3 times the AC voltage and you want the power rating of the transformer to be something like twice the idle draw of the circuit.Another query regarding the power transformer. Post #180 of Juma says 40vdc so backward calculating makes it 35vac secondary winding trafo but what amperes do you guys suggest. If using a single transformer to power both the channels should I get something like 0-35v @6A *2 dual secondary rated around 400VA or is it more if using with 8ohm speakers?
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Thanks Papa, I am now looking for a 0-28V@5A dual secondary trafo rated at 300VA for 8ohm speakers. Hopefully I should get one soon.My thumbnail calculation is the DC will be 1.3 times the AC voltage and you want the power rating of the transformer to be something like twice the idle draw of the circuit.
I fitted a J310 to one channel in place of the J309. Surprisingly there is minimal difference, the 2SK170 has 1.2V across drain-source instead of 1V.
The effect on the oscillation is also minimal.
The effect on the oscillation is also minimal.
if we are using a SMPS power supply like laptop brick power supply, what rating do we need to use when compared with idle draw of the circuit ? how much head room do we need to have for the SMPS power supply.My thumbnail calculation is the DC will be 1.3 times the AC voltage and you want the power rating of the transformer to be something like twice the idle draw of the circuit.
Any issue if I replace the BC560c in this class A 25w circuit with BC557c or 556c? I have few pieces of 557/556 NOS rather than 560 sometimes coming as rejected/fake ones when I tested them in the Salas Ultra BiB circuit. Hence I hope using the replacements should not change anything.
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AFAIK the only difference in spec is the noise figure (and max Vcb)Any issue if I replace the BC560c in this class A 25w circuit with BC557c or 556c? I have few pieces of 557/556 NOS rather than 560 sometimes coming as rejected/fake ones when I tested them in the Salas Ultra BiB circuit. Hence I hope using the replacements should not change anything.
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I think it could be there to discharge C2, C13 after power down. It also slightly preloads the regulator.
About the same. If you are concerned about current limiting on peaks the put capacitance in parallel with the supply.if we are using a SMPS power supply like laptop brick power supply, what rating do we need to use when compared with idle draw of the circuit ? how much head room do we need to have for the SMPS power supply.
With my -30vdc rails on the Juma board and I used pair of red leds after checking/matching to get close to 3.53v using my LCR meter I powered up one channel. Bulb tester passed as no current is being passed. Now without bulb tester none of the red leds glow and I see the voltage of 30v across the source (S) of Q2 (J310) against the ground and almost the same voltage across the source (S) of Q3 (BC560c). Offset is also around ~29.8v with the trimmer not helping to reduce or increase any of these voltages. Any idea what I am missing as the schematic says to set -20v across the Sources of Q2/Q3 using the trimmer (I presume that is half the supply voltage and in my case its 30vdc so I need to set to -15v).
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I am going to replace the red leds with the Green ones having forward voltage of 3.5v and the led2 with jumper. Hope that is the issue and also suspecting the BC560c from a local source. Plan to source few pieces from genuine lets see if I am successful.
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Can I power this class using 24v 5a smps to test for initial setup? Schematic says -40vdc but I hope using a laptop adapter smps should not cause issue when I reverse the polarity for this amp unlike regular CRC psu board!
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