OK, so it is a feature
But i can only find 5 pieces of 180R resistors.? Where is the last one hiding? Or is it bad balancing by design?
But i can only find 5 pieces of 180R resistors.? Where is the last one hiding? Or is it bad balancing by design?
Yes.
But the real values or resistor numbers on pcb do not correspond to https://static.wixstatic.com/media/...f4a9_9440f2fe9903496093de59c691da66ea~mv2.jpg
So I find it a little difficult😔
Its the 9/10 switch unbal i have measured
But the real values or resistor numbers on pcb do not correspond to https://static.wixstatic.com/media/...f4a9_9440f2fe9903496093de59c691da66ea~mv2.jpg
So I find it a little difficult😔
Its the 9/10 switch unbal i have measured
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Yes, 10 pcs. I meant that I can`t see which resistors on schematic are 180R and witch are 510R.
In my understanding of balancing all the 4 resistors should be equal when gain is 1. So I cant get the math of 5 180R and 5 510R to add up?
I measured 7/8 and found the same 18 dB CMRR.
But maybe I have missed out something?
In my understanding of balancing all the 4 resistors should be equal when gain is 1. So I cant get the math of 5 180R and 5 510R to add up?
I measured 7/8 and found the same 18 dB CMRR.
But maybe I have missed out something?
Here is a LPF low gain stepped response. -20dB to 0dB. 4,5V setting on DAC. Last half dB is DAC clipping.
On this setup the smallest total distortion is at about -5.6 dB.
But it changes rapidly with level!
dBr y axis, dBFS on outputas x axis

Another measurement zooming 2 dB with longer FFT and
dBFS y axis, dBFS on input as x axis

FFT at -5,6dBFS in.
Really low distortion measurements, indeed!

On this setup the smallest total distortion is at about -5.6 dB.
But it changes rapidly with level!
dBr y axis, dBFS on outputas x axis

Another measurement zooming 2 dB with longer FFT and
dBFS y axis, dBFS on input as x axis

FFT at -5,6dBFS in.
Really low distortion measurements, indeed!

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the simplified diagram shows all 10pcs as 510, in a real device one pair uses 180(positive input).Yes, 10 pcs. I meant that I can`t see which resistors on schematic are 180R and witch are 510R.
In my understanding of balancing all the 4 resistors should be equal when gain is 1. So I cant get the math of 5 180R and 5 510R to add up?
I measured 7/8 and found the same 18 dB CMRR.
But maybe I have missed out something?
sorry, but it is not the LPF performance level yet 😉Impressive effort from the constructor!
Ok, that explains the 18 dB CMRRthe simplified diagram shows all 10pcs as 510, in a real device one pair uses 180(positive input).
I intuitivly thougt of high CMRR design goal when read about 0.1% resistors.
But I was wrong🤓
torgeirs, I measured CMRR for Lch bal2unbal stage and got 53.21db@1kHz. The first layout was 9039S Lout+ to Lin+ of the Lch bal2unbal stage, 9039S Lout- to Lin- of the Lch bal2unbal stage, next to the ADCiso(-2.47dbfs). The second layout has both Lin+ and Lin- of the Lch bal2unbal stage tied to the Lout+ of the 9039S, ADC shows -61.68dbfs. As you can see, my result is about 58 times better than your 18db 😉
But are the balancing legs 160R and 590R or all 160 or all 590?
Mixed R should be 18 dB
Unmixed R should be 60 dB
But, i really struggel to understand with no schematic and real values.
But my card functions because of good CMRR on LPF. So don’t need the CMRR on the unbal input.
Just switched the plugs so I know my messurement dont lie
Mixed R should be 18 dB
Unmixed R should be 60 dB
But, i really struggel to understand with no schematic and real values.
But my card functions because of good CMRR on LPF. So don’t need the CMRR on the unbal input.
Just switched the plugs so I know my messurement dont lie
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One switch open at the time. Same stimulus signal on L and R. R not inverted
10 open -19,50 dB
9 open -27,32 dB
8 open -19,52 dB
7 open -27,34 dB
7 and 9 open. Virtual balanced input. -92,8 dB
8 and 10 open. Virtual balanced input. -91,25 dB
9 and 10 open. Virtual balanced input. -33,00 dB
9 and 10 open. Virtual balanced input. R stimulus inverted -21,56 dB
10 open -19,50 dB
9 open -27,32 dB
8 open -19,52 dB
7 open -27,34 dB
7 and 9 open. Virtual balanced input. -92,8 dB
8 and 10 open. Virtual balanced input. -91,25 dB
9 and 10 open. Virtual balanced input. -33,00 dB
9 and 10 open. Virtual balanced input. R stimulus inverted -21,56 dB
Is it still about the CMRR? Sorry, I don't understand. Let's hope that somebody else here understands and will clarify it to me 😉
CMRR is not about open a switch, this is a standard test. Did you see the video I recommended? Maybe wiki?
CMRR is not about open a switch, this is a standard test. Did you see the video I recommended? Maybe wiki?
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