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#64
10cm and bass works only for desktop loudspeakers in close listening or corner placement.

If you take a 15cm driver close to a back wall I got a fullrange which measures like this

Freedom666

Post in thread 'How good are our DIY units compared to off the shelf stuff?'

@perrymarshall

Usually you have to build ready developed loudspeakers from DIY loudspeaker magazines if you have no measurement equipment.

If you try without assistance (no magazines, no measurement system, no listening experience, no knowledge how to do it) the way is stoney to make a good loudspeaker and usually most commercial designs will sound better.

But with experience and time you learn to do things which you cannot buy anywhere.

For example a simple 15cm fullrange driver which in a 29 liter reflex box made perfect sound, no crossover at all it goes up to 12khz...
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I think I am among the rare ones who did not like the TC9. I bought it because many people praised it...
Yes, it is still cheap enogh, sounds nice and smooth at first.
But after I while I noticed that some details in the music get lost, like in a fog, and the overall impression begins to fade. Some generic 3" JVC ones sound better.
I have not heard other small fullrangers, woul like te hear Faital 3Fe22 and/or CHN50P...
Just my :2c:
 
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planet10 said:
Best price/performance: CHR/CHP-50 certainlky would be serious candidates.

dave
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My top favorite best bang for your buck 3” full range driver is The CHN -50’s by far. Price and performance in sound and built quality. I have the 50p version but, Will make a speaker next spring 2025. The light blue cones were the first generation of Mark Audios paper cones like the Alpair 6p’s so had and sold to a friend. The black cones must be the second generation and the newer white cones must be the 3rd and newest generation of cones. I wonder what the difference is in this new cone? Enjoy The drivers. Jeff
 
#75
Vix said:
I think I am among the rare ones who did not like the TC9. I bought it because many people praised it...
Yes, it is still cheap enogh, sounds nice and smooth at first.
But after I while I noticed that some details in the music get lost, like in a fog, and the overall impression begins to fade. Some generic 3" JVC ones sound better.
I have not heard other small fullrangers, woul like te hear Faital 3Fe22 and/or CHN50P...
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TC9 is not cheap anymore, I think, that us, DIY crowd, kinda spoiled it. Luckily there are more than this one in the wild. The sad part is that as our common stuff is transitioning from petrol to electric - all copper, neodymium and other electric motor building stuff gets more expensive. Extra 5 EUR for simple driver is a lot, but 10 EUR for 10+ inch driver is not much.

Luckily there are many drivers which are comparable to TC9 in 20 EUR range. I even like Visaton FRS 8 more, which is cheaper right now.
 
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Vix said:
I think I am among the rare ones who did not like the TC9. I bought it because many people praised it...
Yes, it is still cheap enogh, sounds nice and smooth at first.
But after I while I noticed that some details in the music get lost, like in a fog, and the overall impression begins to fade. Some generic 3" JVC ones sound better.
I have not heard other small fullrangers, woul like te hear Faital 3Fe22 and/or CHN50P...
Just my :2c:I didn’t like the TC9 as well.
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I never tried the TC9 speakers but the Vifa TG9-FD10/04 drivers were nice but, not the cats meow as alot of diyer’s enjoyed them. The Mark Audios CHN -50’s are a better all around driver. Not good in this area or that area just a good all around best bang for your buck drivers. That’s why they are my favorite 3” inch full range driver.
 
#78
Freedom666 said:
10cm and bass works only for desktop loudspeakers in close listening or corner placement.

If you take a 15cm driver close to a back wall I got a fullrange which measures like this

Freedom666

Post in thread 'How good are our DIY units compared to off the shelf stuff?'

@perrymarshall

Usually you have to build ready developed loudspeakers from DIY loudspeaker magazines if you have no measurement equipment.

If you try without assistance (no magazines, no measurement system, no listening experience, no knowledge how to do it) the way is stoney to make a good loudspeaker and usually most commercial designs will sound better.

But with experience and time you learn to do things which you cannot buy anywhere.

For example a simple 15cm fullrange driver which in a 29 liter reflex box made perfect sound, no crossover at all it goes up to 12khz...
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Is there tin foil on this driver?
 
#79
yes, I do this frequently and described it for everyone how to DIY:

Freedom666

Post in thread 'How to make a loudspeaker sandwich cone'

Constrained Layer damping:

A hint I got here from the forum as a key to good sound from sandwich structure.

Now used silicone sealant for applying aluminium foil to the paper cone.

Finger snipping test shows enhanced damping due to the properties of the silicone.

Work goes faster than with the household glue I used usually.
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just read from post one of the thread
 
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