Does what seems to be an amazingly flat output between 100hz and 2kz when installed in a 1 cubic foot sealed enclosure nearly as well as it looks on paper?
Member @conanski relayed is opinion of the similar 8" using the wizzer design as "very natural sounding" which is exactly what I desire.
I need a large quantity of sound without excessive amplitude or any sense of strain.
This is to echo if I dare the nature of the acoustic player grand piano that it accompanies. It's the most fantastic on-demand auditory experience of my life.
Cross-link to: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/accompaniment-for-player-piano.416957/#post-7776819 made because the nature of my situation does not categorize well among the choice of forums.
Member @conanski relayed is opinion of the similar 8" using the wizzer design as "very natural sounding" which is exactly what I desire.
I need a large quantity of sound without excessive amplitude or any sense of strain.
This is to echo if I dare the nature of the acoustic player grand piano that it accompanies. It's the most fantastic on-demand auditory experience of my life.
Cross-link to: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/accompaniment-for-player-piano.416957/#post-7776819 made because the nature of my situation does not categorize well among the choice of forums.
It is quite resonant in that range - see the impedance wiggles. I'm pretty familiar with the driver and I do like it a lot for live audio and even home audio, but it's not very hi-fi. It's more of a rich, muscular, vintage-y sound. It can be mated to a 45° waveguide HF driver really well with active or passive xover.
Thanks so much. Am happy with that description. The physical instrument it accompanies, a Baldwin M "baby" grand custom built at the height of WWII is very often described in much the same manner--for better or worse.
I'm not at all concerned with adding a high end driver and crossover as that part of the system is handled by other loudspeakers.
I've had luck with it run wide open with a model cat378 with its 5.6uf cap.
Long as it is not being confused with the stamp steel BP102
that is mud bloom junk.
The B102 being cast basket and much larger magnet/motor strength.
With way better cone design.
Having plenty of sealed 1 cubic foot boxes when fooling around with 10" drivers.
No I didn't like it sealed.
It woke up and was not bloomy like typical bass applications.
If it was put in larger 1.8 cubic feet box or basically with ports, handles, hardware blah blah
closer to 1.5 cubic.
Getting impedance sweep to have even bumps in the low end.
around 45 Hz tuning, not typical 55 Hz boxes
Basically to be honest tested it in a 12" box
and built something for it, because it woke up in the bigger box.
Not vintage it has clarity and takes EQ fine.
Doesnt chickle chackle wackle if you boost the top end.
Used for bass applications and Fender Rhodes piano.
Which always needs EQ for the high end anyways.
I basically bought it because I wanted a 10" tuned at 45 Hz not 55 Hz
and the whooper magnet and decent Qts seemed to do it close
enough to whatever the heck Fs was.
Was better and cheaper than a 3012HO which will not
beat the top end of the B102. it needs a horn, and chickle chackles
with high boost as wideband.
and tune farts at 55 Hz
Never heard vocals, Since my vocal cabinets
used larger horns for highend and mids.
But have used the smaller aluminum horn from JBL HL14-50N
with older titanium hard to find now D3300TI-DPD driver.
For small 12" and 10" monitors with very good results.
For vocals only and dirt cheap line array have used the dual cone 8" PRV
which is widely more available, for vocals fine
over EQ instruments, needs horn.
line array used 4 of them. So the made more bass than people think.
that is mud bloom junk.
The B102 being cast basket and much larger magnet/motor strength.
With way better cone design.
Having plenty of sealed 1 cubic foot boxes when fooling around with 10" drivers.
No I didn't like it sealed.
It woke up and was not bloomy like typical bass applications.
If it was put in larger 1.8 cubic feet box or basically with ports, handles, hardware blah blah
closer to 1.5 cubic.
Getting impedance sweep to have even bumps in the low end.
around 45 Hz tuning, not typical 55 Hz boxes
Basically to be honest tested it in a 12" box
and built something for it, because it woke up in the bigger box.
Not vintage it has clarity and takes EQ fine.
Doesnt chickle chackle wackle if you boost the top end.
Used for bass applications and Fender Rhodes piano.
Which always needs EQ for the high end anyways.
I basically bought it because I wanted a 10" tuned at 45 Hz not 55 Hz
and the whooper magnet and decent Qts seemed to do it close
enough to whatever the heck Fs was.
Was better and cheaper than a 3012HO which will not
beat the top end of the B102. it needs a horn, and chickle chackles
with high boost as wideband.
and tune farts at 55 Hz
Never heard vocals, Since my vocal cabinets
used larger horns for highend and mids.
But have used the smaller aluminum horn from JBL HL14-50N
with older titanium hard to find now D3300TI-DPD driver.
For small 12" and 10" monitors with very good results.
For vocals only and dirt cheap line array have used the dual cone 8" PRV
which is widely more available, for vocals fine
over EQ instruments, needs horn.
line array used 4 of them. So the made more bass than people think.