Two dome mids in an MTM arrangement……anyone tried it?

New Bryston Model T10

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REALLY HAVE A LOT OF FUN :

Yes checkout around 01:10 , how much fun it is to hear that hollow cab makes some real hollow sounds!

Go Bryston Go , your sales promoters are one of a kind!

so much audio entertainment on this board , better than watching TV ...
 
My Norwegian hifi friend is very happy whit hes new Bryston T10 speakers, and he had before big Usher,Focal 3, Sonus faber, Ultima Salon 2, PS Audio FR30 and 15 more potent speakers.

so apparently the concept works

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I can guess the kind of music that fits these type of speakers : YELLO for instance 🙂

Double tweeters - a nitemare for nearfield listening!

The real challenge is to reproduce true acoustic recordings convincingly!

You must understand the Recording Biz is a (legal) mafia! (unless you kill someone , nearly everything is allowed)

Audiophile Records are a waste of time for them , a fast job is what they want!

Oh Lord forgive them , they don't know what they are doing to us ....
 
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It looks like a typical wooden house in sweden . On the left the window has nearly no depth , to the right a flat wall with some kind of poster on it , so asymmetrical side wall conditions . Speakers much too close to the side walls , speakers have no lateral directivity control . Just a thin curtain behind the speakers . To the left close to the window a sofa , another asymmetric object . And no carpet on the floor plus a much to much listening distance!

But magical McIntosh gear , sent by heaven above into this little cabin in the woods 🙂

Praise the lord all day long and you will be forgiven!

Jesus! We must be the chosen few 🙂
 
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It looks like a typical wooden house in sweden . On the left the window has nearly no depth , to the right a flat wall with some kind of poster on it , so asymmetrical side wall conditions . Speakers much too close to the side walls , speakers have no lateral directivity control . Just a thin curtain behind the speakers . To the left close to the window a sofa , another asymmetric object . And no carpet on the floor plus a much to much listening distance!
Its a Norwegian house 👍
He take away carpets etc for this photo!

And i promisse you, hes real picky about sound.
Plays Yello for hole the neighborhood 😆

Hes room is a big L
 

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Center to center makes it rather pointless.

2" drivers plus the mounting frame
makes it same or worse than a 6.5"

might as well just use a aluminum
reference 5"

dome mid
allows a smaller tweeter/ higher crossover point.

be taking full advantage of that.

MTM being a udder waste of time.
Dual tweets/ dual mids in some photos shown.
Why? lol

Even at high spl
you will exceed the thermal rating
before linear excursion gets touched.
Because = highpass filter

the mid domes are so small.
Usually run into phase issues up top
for crossover design.

likely only reason to slightly setback
a tweeter is to fight against the crossover
design time.

Very very tight margin for phase up top.
and 4th order would get dream like vertical.
MTM just pure garbage
Domes sound marvelous.
Just one, and a small small tweet.
Untouchable vertical.
Sitting / standing...you know the actual listening positions
that get ignored

Be easier to fight with a ribbon / planar mid
those sound darn darn good. accurate
if vertical is gonna suffer
 
Not much subjective nature.
Wavelengths are what they are.
Center to center is what it is.

Its basically guarantee vertical issue with MTM
Horizontal is dirt easy to get.
Vertical is not.
Going down to even the small mid of 2"
Center to center will never be ideal.

with highpass you have thermal issue
not linear issue.
Single mid is not much of a issue.
Its a benefit, specially being so much smaller and lighter
than conventional cone drivers.
 
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Coax has its wormholes
and its benefits, yes indeed.

Because of neo magnets
an the possibility to reduce overall mounting size.

Would say small dome mid
and small dome tweeter.
Will give it a run for the money.

Basically as mentioned.
So magical, the real arm wrestling
is getting tweet and mid to combine.
The cone areas are so small the phase response
is going to be tight. almost the same up top
So its a challenge , but rewarding.
As mentioned
likely the only reason you would really actually
setback a tweeter.
Not for magical sound reasons, or magical appearance.
When your arm wrestling that phase up top.
that setback might help save time with the crossover design.
All else even a 5 or 7 degree tilt.
 
we need better engineers that give us more advanced transducers

Is KEF the end in coax design or just the beginning 🙂

Multiple triangular elements clustered may do a better job but directivity is difficult to predict without a simulation ...


Next invention please - the crowd is hungry 🙂
 
Horizontal is important
Vertical is not
You don't have ceilings or floors in your room? Ever tried the difference a ceiling cloud does to a room?
Vertical IS important.
Let's go back to the 9ties and start all over again
Listened to the track in my studio room and office. Wow, there is a LOT of noise and hum and some "ploping" in the right speaker. They should check their mic. And they couldn't find a better woodblock? Sometimes an audio engineer and producer can help a recording a lot 😎

In a well dampened room this feels very natural. A single XY microphone, not a lot can go wrong with that. In my office everything is relatively far away and you have a more "jumpy" representation of the left/right movement.
Will be interesting how this sounds with my surround setup and all of these "enhancement" modes. Some of them are actually good in bringing more "dimension" to Stereo without destroying everything, this would be a good test.

p.s.: If someone really wants to hear what's in their music data check out "non environment room" and the concept behind it. Not for everyone but I love mine. With closed eyes you can "grab" your phantom sources.

p.p.s.: It's not the only goal to sound natural in music! How should a synth sound natural? Electrical guitars? Even drumsets never sound natural on recordings cause it would be way to weak, you always boost at least the kick drum. There are so many music styles where "natural" doesn't even make sense and/or is not wanted. Of course loudness war destroyed a lot and the fun thing is - streaming takes out some of this pressure and gives the chance for better recordings again.
Check out Adele 25 for a really great produced record! Not everything is natural but everything makes sense and sounds good at the right place. I like to play track 3 as the first track when someone listens to my system the first time. Always nice to see the big eyes first and then the grin 🤓
 
My Norwegian hifi friend is very happy whit hes new Bryston T10 speakers, and he had before big Usher,Focal 3, Sonus faber, Ultima Salon 2, PS Audio FR30 and 15 more potent speakers.

so apparently the concept works
Apparently he doesn't have a room concept when he feels the need to change his speakers that often ...
When he would have invested 1/10th of the price of his gear in a good acoustician and a proper listening room he could actually hear the music instead of the gear.