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OK then.... where is the proper place to discuss a front end for bridged F4 amps?

The CJ is just to keep the heat going in the caboose.

We can take the discussion elsewhere... no problemo. ( I am Spanish, I am Inquiring... ).

maybe here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/f4-power-amplifier.97540/page-258

If you post there, more than happy to join in the reindeer games (whilst I listen to my balanced F4 monsterblocks happily driving me out of the room driven by a Benchmark DAC3 running Audirvana from a Mac Mini). I'm working towards building a balanced SRPP preamp based on Glassware boards. Will share details if any interest.
 
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ROTFLOL.... 😀 :happy1: 😎😳😈

OK. I will post in the F4 forums...

Let me know when the next batch of Iron comes on line...

I ought to be like 50th on line by now.

Pathetic?

Indeed. :yikes: ROTFLOL.... Just having some fun here... for some reason this movie came up in my mind. Funny!

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Dennis - don't ask me how I know - it's always worth checking are coils polarized ......

knowing me (and my luck) - when I redid Iron Pumpkin for micro-size Fujitsu relays, of course that I didn't see small print in datasheet and of course that I wired it*** opposite

luckily (my luck flippable, luckily :rofl: ) I did saw that before ordering pcbs

so, ZM's general tactics of futile attempts confirmed again

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*** means all 10 relays on SE, all 12 relays on Bal, all 24 relays on Turtle

:rofl:
 
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I’m going to attempt to build a iron pre se with one of these : https://www.academyaudio.com/
I was also looking at the Muse solution, but I've found that Muse chip need an output buffer and all the project I've seen around are using an integrated IC to implement this buffer.
So the question is: do it have any meaning to insert in the audio signal path an integrated operational circuit in this Iron Pre that is full discrete preamp project ?
You already have a buffer on the input of the IP so you can connect directly the muse and enjoy.
I'm referring to already available solutions that use Muse IC like the one Amandarae suggested (just as one of the many other available). All these project have already a output buffer as per manufacturer requirement.
To avoid this, one should make a project tailored for the IP only instead of using a ready made ones.

https://www.nisshinbo-microdevices.co.jp/en/pdf/datasheet/MUSES72320_E.pdf
If the muses and IP are in the same enclosure you can remove the buffer from the muse pcb.

This discussion kind of fizzled out.

Since balanced Turtle transformer is a no go for balanced Iron Pre I’ve been trying to figure out what would be a worthwhile “second place” so to speak.

Not too excited about pricey pots or stepped attenuators.

Looked at the relay controlled ladder type attenuators on eBay…the display is nice, don’t need their input/output switching scheme…not all have a constant input/output impedance.

So Muses.

Do all the solutions already have a buffer on the output that we would want to figure out how to bypass?

If so, anyone figure how to bypass the buffer themselves?

Anyone inquire with Academy?

They appear to have an add on balanced output board option.