is that self-contradiction ....... or deliberate search for euphonic part's contribution to sound?
when deliberate - let's call it informed choice
when random, let's call it with right name - Audiophoolery
I don't fall for audiophoolery but neither do I fall for the Julian Hirsh school of measuring but not listening.
Do you remember the Tice Clock? Now that was good. Now we got "audiophile ethernet switches" with linear power supplies.
As a physicist I believe that we don't know much about things... so we should listen to our ears and never blindly follow our measurement dogma.
In the case of audiophile USB cables... I had a discussion with someone yesterday who swears by it... but in my own home setups, which I've put together myself, I hear no difference... and in the lab I see nothing of importance that would indicate that anything "better" than a well put together USB cable will "sound" better when used in an asynchronous mode, well.... I didn't want to insult the guy so I shifted the conversation into vacuum tubes.
Better to put your money on better opamps in the DAC.
The teflon caps do change the sound to a more realistic soundstage if the circuits can handle it. CJ does and I guess ARC does too. We got symphony hall seats (prior to this Covid fiasco middle of the row M. And I got some experience with live music, so the changes are for the better. So in this case I'm willing to part with the dough. I mean, I got a Honda, not a Benz... so I can afford it.
I mean, even NP notes about 2nd and 3rd order harmonics. Who knows? Perhaps there is something about our psychoacoustic perception that is dependent upon some other factors that we are not yet aware of and 2nd and 3rd order harmonics introduce one of the middle factors that do affect our perception of sound.... I don't know... that's not my field of study, but I can tell you that proper buffering, error correction and reclocking make USB jitter meaningless.
But yeah.... what we need is triple virgin gold wire around heavy iron laminations.
What kind of red wine do you like?
I prefer Pinot Noir although a Shirah is good and I'm old enough to appreciate a good Zinfandel.
Do you remember the Tice Clock? Now that was good. Now we got "audiophile ethernet switches" with linear power supplies.
As a physicist I believe that we don't know much about things... so we should listen to our ears and never blindly follow our measurement dogma.
In the case of audiophile USB cables... I had a discussion with someone yesterday who swears by it... but in my own home setups, which I've put together myself, I hear no difference... and in the lab I see nothing of importance that would indicate that anything "better" than a well put together USB cable will "sound" better when used in an asynchronous mode, well.... I didn't want to insult the guy so I shifted the conversation into vacuum tubes.
Better to put your money on better opamps in the DAC.
The teflon caps do change the sound to a more realistic soundstage if the circuits can handle it. CJ does and I guess ARC does too. We got symphony hall seats (prior to this Covid fiasco middle of the row M. And I got some experience with live music, so the changes are for the better. So in this case I'm willing to part with the dough. I mean, I got a Honda, not a Benz... so I can afford it.
I mean, even NP notes about 2nd and 3rd order harmonics. Who knows? Perhaps there is something about our psychoacoustic perception that is dependent upon some other factors that we are not yet aware of and 2nd and 3rd order harmonics introduce one of the middle factors that do affect our perception of sound.... I don't know... that's not my field of study, but I can tell you that proper buffering, error correction and reclocking make USB jitter meaningless.
But yeah.... what we need is triple virgin gold wire around heavy iron laminations.
What kind of red wine do you like?
I prefer Pinot Noir although a Shirah is good and I'm old enough to appreciate a good Zinfandel.
I still have the Marklin set I got when I was a kid. It has an almost 60 year old transformer set of 50Hz... and it works fine in our 60Hz system.
Besides, I expressely searched for that picture. That's a Marklin. Something ZM, and our European folks, might recognize.
Hopefully, when the train derails. the back stays on the rails? Sometimes it's better not to be at the very edge of the front... YOU turn that power supply to 80V and let me know if it smokes.... meanwhile mine is set to 50.
And you got to admit the caboose has the best view! A full 360 degrees.
BTW: I got lots of scotch whiskey, maybe like 40 bottles! And cigars.
OH well, I didn't get this one... so I guess I ought to sit back and watch the pretty pictures and maybe have a sip of good rum to assuage my loss.
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You have had a pretected childhood. My full scale Lionel and Tyco HO were stolen by my dastardly brother and hocked.
@tonyEE
see that it pays of pulling your leg, distracting you from F4 fixation.....
drink in general ..... having a glass of various niceties here and there, but really finding it almost insignificant, really being constant high either from reading or working or dreaming
even watching movies and worthy series is becoming lacking in, well, highness
see that it pays of pulling your leg, distracting you from F4 fixation.....
drink in general ..... having a glass of various niceties here and there, but really finding it almost insignificant, really being constant high either from reading or working or dreaming
even watching movies and worthy series is becoming lacking in, well, highness
BA3 is (as we usually take it), practically, potent FE with follower OS
F4 itself is sole follower OS
meaning, combining functional blocks is easy, fun, and possible to be done in many arrangements
say - build F4, add BA3 FE in separate case (calling it preamp with cojones), that's practically same as BA3
BA3 PP OS is conceptually similar and functionally identical to F4
F4 itself is sole follower OS
meaning, combining functional blocks is easy, fun, and possible to be done in many arrangements
say - build F4, add BA3 FE in separate case (calling it preamp with cojones), that's practically same as BA3
BA3 PP OS is conceptually similar and functionally identical to F4
Well, Bedroom Built BA3 could serve that duty. I could do that.
Then lacking build guide, for now, Pass FE both Varients so ignorance is excused. Can Pass FE be substituted for BA3 with cojones?
@tonyEE
see that it pays of pulling your leg, distracting you from F4 fixation.....
drink in general ..... having a glass of various niceties here and there, but really finding it almost insignificant, really being constant high either from reading or working or dreaming
even watching movies and worthy series is becoming lacking in, well, highness
Hey... next time... can you pull my other leg? I'm sort of getting asymmetric here. 😀 But no issues. I find humor in such things.
Short of Mel Brooks and old series like Get Smart and Gilligan's Island I've given up on TV and movies.
Yeah, I do have that F4 fixation... mostly because amplifiers with no gain.. .and no feedback and no degeneration... sound so correct. All they need is one single voltage gain stage up front. That solves the issue of too much gain... But asking for 80 Vpp of a stand alone front end seems to be breaking all the rules.
Big transformer.
However, I find that I like distortion too. So perhaps, we need that gizmo NP designed to insert some distortion in the system... like a tone control. Create very low noise, very low distortion, 100 wpc integrated amplifier with a distortion "tone" control. Sort of like the SIT1, huh? But with more, more power.
Wines in the Adriatic are good. It's a good time of the year, coming up, to eat outdoors and enjoy a nice glass. Here in SoCal we're stuck with a marine layer that has kept us all in a deep May Gray and moving to an omnipresent June Gloom. Makes for a sad selection of gloomy music. Gregorian Chants... Not like when I was a kid, and we'd be driving through the country side... my mom would pull the 2CV to the side and tell me to jump the fence and grab some grapes from the vines... so we'd happily eat grapes all the way home, listening to the French AM stations broadcasting in Catalan. Franco? Hah! 😛
if by Pass FE you mean this year great blingie .......... what I can say - use any from Pa**, be it that one, or BA3 FE, or last Stasis FE, combine with whatever OS suits you, you're good
I mean, repeating that for years from moment I realisd it - most important thing Pa is giving constantly - not all the Fish he gave but constant nudging and encouraging us to learn and try and learn and try
nudgenudge
**use anything you can think of, even CJ
Gunna route mains power down one side and signals down the other.
I can always drill more holes.
not really
they're all around, maybe just not so visible or "actual"
though, I'm finding that you and Holzarbeiter are exploiting my naivety and chatability, having me directly involved in massive cluttering of this thread, mainly with F4 and CJ
didn't think of keeping them (signal) shortest possible?
it always pays of
same purpose - keeping volpot(s) all the back, with extending shaft
Fellas,
Your probably not going to be satisfied with Iron Pre driving a follower amp, thats not what its meant for. Plenty of other options specifically suited for the job thought.
A couple that come to mind are the BA3 (as ZM mentioned), AKSA Lender Preamp and Shade Common Gate Preamp (SCG). I do believe the newly released FE from Nelson Pass can also be considered.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/schade-common-gate-scg-preamp.380487/
Your probably not going to be satisfied with Iron Pre driving a follower amp, thats not what its meant for. Plenty of other options specifically suited for the job thought.
A couple that come to mind are the BA3 (as ZM mentioned), AKSA Lender Preamp and Shade Common Gate Preamp (SCG). I do believe the newly released FE from Nelson Pass can also be considered.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/schade-common-gate-scg-preamp.380487/
not really
they're all around, maybe just not so visible or "actual"
though, I'm finding that you and Holzarbeiter are exploiting my naivety and chatability, having me directly involved in massive cluttering of this thread, mainly with F4 and CJ
OK then.... where is the proper place to discuss a front end for bridged F4 amps?
The CJ is just to keep the heat going in the caboose.
We can take the discussion elsewhere... no problemo. ( I am Spanish, I am Inquiring... ).