BEWARE WITH KLYPSO or you will be scammed like I was with this pair of tweeters:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...-664000-beryllium-illuminator-x2-400e.398493/
An empty box with just papers inside. He covered himself from the paypal buyer protection sending an empty box.
Anyway, I paid him like friends and family and I have no chance to recover my money: 400€ + 9€ shipping.
Yesterday morning I received the empty box and tried to get in contact with him, but, as it could be supposed, there was no answwer.
I reported this scam to local Police in Spain and would appreciate if any French user could report this to French Police as well, because I cannot.
I could give him all the necessary data.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...-664000-beryllium-illuminator-x2-400e.398493/
An empty box with just papers inside. He covered himself from the paypal buyer protection sending an empty box.
Anyway, I paid him like friends and family and I have no chance to recover my money: 400€ + 9€ shipping.
Yesterday morning I received the empty box and tried to get in contact with him, but, as it could be supposed, there was no answwer.
I reported this scam to local Police in Spain and would appreciate if any French user could report this to French Police as well, because I cannot.
I could give him all the necessary data.
You should beware generally of paying via Paypal friends and family. A notorious way to scam people.
Sorry to hear this but we must consider that the PayPal fees for doing it properly are insurance against scams.
As one of the sellers in this forum, I never ask buyers to pay with Paypal F&F.
I once asked for payment with Paypal F&F, but I said that I would send the item first and payment could be made after it was received.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you BTW, and I hope it was just a miscommunication and didn't really happen.
I once asked for payment with Paypal F&F, but I said that I would send the item first and payment could be made after it was received.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you BTW, and I hope it was just a miscommunication and didn't really happen.
I've paid in the past Raelman as friend and family, of course not a single problem at all, very sad to hear that raelman.
If anyone from France is reading, help this guy out!
If anyone from France is reading, help this guy out!
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Well, that sucks!! Comes from a guy who direct wired 4K for two amps to a guy in Germany and never heard back... After 35 years of buying/selling stuff I found the guy who really tricked me… Hurts. Not just the money but the feeling, I have lost so much more in selling stuff at 40-50-60% off the buying price but it was my choice to do it. Being robbed is bad.
Thanks for letting the community know!
Thanks for letting the community know!
Your are right Forane12. The worst is not the money, that is just a factor in this issue. The worst is the expectation waiting for the items to come and the need of them... the feeling is absolutly bad.
We should not be surprised with this kind of things happening everyday. We should be aware that we humans are this way.
We should not be surprised with this kind of things happening everyday. We should be aware that we humans are this way.
Wow that’s insane.
I had a conversation with a guy selling 2x PWRs few months ago on our local ad site « leboncoin », everything seemed normal.
They stayed on leboncoin for a while then I noticed they appeared here, since 2x for sale are pretty rare there’s good chance he’s the one.
I just tried to find its pseudo but I had already cleared the conversation, but if I find it in the future I’ll report here.
I don't understand why he would even send an empty package, no need for that since you paid as « friend » on paypal (lesson for others here).
Also the little slip inside the box proves he used mondialrelay.fr for shipping, typically used by default with leboncoin as it’s cheaper.
Since it was not a leboncoin sale, he had to order it manually on mondialrelay, so they sure have his name, maybe you can deal with them to find out (I think he was in Alsace or a part of east of France).
There’s probably a discrepancy between the label price/weight and the real box weight, but discrepancy or not, you should also consider that someone might have « emptied" the box during shipping, any sign of previous opening?
I had a conversation with a guy selling 2x PWRs few months ago on our local ad site « leboncoin », everything seemed normal.
They stayed on leboncoin for a while then I noticed they appeared here, since 2x for sale are pretty rare there’s good chance he’s the one.
I just tried to find its pseudo but I had already cleared the conversation, but if I find it in the future I’ll report here.
I don't understand why he would even send an empty package, no need for that since you paid as « friend » on paypal (lesson for others here).
Also the little slip inside the box proves he used mondialrelay.fr for shipping, typically used by default with leboncoin as it’s cheaper.
Since it was not a leboncoin sale, he had to order it manually on mondialrelay, so they sure have his name, maybe you can deal with them to find out (I think he was in Alsace or a part of east of France).
There’s probably a discrepancy between the label price/weight and the real box weight, but discrepancy or not, you should also consider that someone might have « emptied" the box during shipping, any sign of previous opening?
I got in contact with mondial relay and they confirmed there was no problem with the parcel not relabeling or repackaging.
The fact for shipping an empty box is that if I would had paid for a product (I never told him if my payment was friends and family or a product) he could demonstrate he sent the items. In fact he sent like 3 kilos and the parcel should have been no more than 1 or 1,5 kilos.
I have his name and addres in the label. Porbably false for sure. It will be his neighbour or whatever. It is supposed he lives in Nancy (France).
The fact for shipping an empty box is that if I would had paid for a product (I never told him if my payment was friends and family or a product) he could demonstrate he sent the items. In fact he sent like 3 kilos and the parcel should have been no more than 1 or 1,5 kilos.
I have his name and addres in the label. Porbably false for sure. It will be his neighbour or whatever. It is supposed he lives in Nancy (France).
Ok so that’s him for sure now.
When you receive a paypal payment it’s clearly labeled as friend or not, so he knew he didn't need to ship.
Still strange to send an empty box with craft paper inside for no good reasons, as even the mondialrelay insurance is off once the package is accepted at reception.
But name has good chance to be the right one, as all mondialrelay payments are made by card.
Only good thing is the community can now check on him.
When you receive a paypal payment it’s clearly labeled as friend or not, so he knew he didn't need to ship.
Still strange to send an empty box with craft paper inside for no good reasons, as even the mondialrelay insurance is off once the package is accepted at reception.
But name has good chance to be the right one, as all mondialrelay payments are made by card.
Only good thing is the community can now check on him.
What's even more disturbing is that's there are lots of people who think scamming and stealing from others is okay. I guess they weren't schooled in the ole disciplinary ways of the 50's and 60's. Just sad.
You should try to file a complaint with your credit card bank.
I sold some transistors to a guy, I got paid friends and family, we had conversations, emails back and forth, he receives the transistors , he’s happy, after a while he opens a dispute saying that the transaction was unauthorized, PayPal immediately takes my money back, 1000 calls with PayPal and even with my customer( who btw admits he made a mistake/ he said the bookkeeper messes up ), bottom line is it took more than 6 months to take my money back.
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No way to complaint to my CC. I had funds and paid with them.
Klypso has answered my PM and he says this is unbelievable. Let’s pray for some mistake and I would be the first one to give him my public complaints if this is a mistake not from his side.
Let’s wait until he answer me and see what happens. I wish this would be MY mistake and would apologise.
Klypso has answered my PM and he says this is unbelievable. Let’s pray for some mistake and I would be the first one to give him my public complaints if this is a mistake not from his side.
Let’s wait until he answer me and see what happens. I wish this would be MY mistake and would apologise.
No customs between the two countries of course but it is not only the customs. I had a Mutec USB+ reclocker stolen in a DPD office in Bucharest in Romania. The tracking number showed it was in the office and after a few days the buyer went there and they told him it was "lost". I was reimbursed 3.47 euro(three euro and forty seven cents) to cover "shipping costs". Which were actually 22.5 euro. So if someone here bought a Mutec MC3+ USB reclocker with a side connector for external PSU on the right side be sure it was at some point "lost" 😉
It did not help that in the sending office they do check what is inside the box, at least in Bulgaria we have strict rules about that, you cannot just show up with a sealed package as there might be food or batteries inside or other prohibited goods, gone are the days that you simply put something in the PO Box and off it goes.
I have heard a number of people complain about lost packages from Amazon, someone I know worked for Amazon UK and it would be sad if what he told me's true - many people in Amazon shipping now how to identify insured packages and they never reach the destination, those people have apartments full of all kinds of unusable stuff that they later sell on the net - diapers, headphones, anything that Amazon will return or resend the money for or resend. NOT good times.
It did not help that in the sending office they do check what is inside the box, at least in Bulgaria we have strict rules about that, you cannot just show up with a sealed package as there might be food or batteries inside or other prohibited goods, gone are the days that you simply put something in the PO Box and off it goes.
I have heard a number of people complain about lost packages from Amazon, someone I know worked for Amazon UK and it would be sad if what he told me's true - many people in Amazon shipping now how to identify insured packages and they never reach the destination, those people have apartments full of all kinds of unusable stuff that they later sell on the net - diapers, headphones, anything that Amazon will return or resend the money for or resend. NOT good times.
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