@Kennewton,
I do not beginn with a presumption. I am just talking about some people opinion that extraterristrians exist because they see UFO they believe to be from allien. I start from there : their magic pinion. Irational. I do not know if alliens exist and even less if they have social and human characteristics like vehicle, needs to travel, needs about machine... but all of this looks like anthropomorphism identification. Projections to say it simply. And here we have a beginning of demonstration and not the claim of the truth or which is not the truth. There could be a chance you are rigth about flyinc saucers visit from the deep space, but intelectual tools of knowledge say more it is delirium tremens, anyway not a knowledge. Demonstrating that it is not existing if you can not prove it is the beginning of a knowledge, a solid point where you can use a lever
I do not see where my mistake is saying here a belief is either not a fact or a lack of proof. The fact is they saw something, the opinion beginns with their interpretation suited with the cloth of pop culture of their era. All those mechanisms are known and well documented in the history of philosophy, information theory, history of religion and myths.
It is not because one see a bush in fire than God exist or the God concept is true. You can not as well say a bush was firering because two people saw it ! Even less if it comes from an organisation which raison d'être is to obey to orders or preserve itself or not known interrests. I am not talking about plot, I am just saying some make colossus waffle on clay feet with no fact (truth) foundation. It is how are writen all the holy books. So stories to make Society not a scientifical proof. After you enter in the sophism zone.
So a phenomenom is not an evidence, you can put both on the same plan by language artifact. As far the phenomenom is not explained it stays without explanation, theories if not proved stay theoris; that's the basic of epistimology, rest is blah. And certainly serves other things than universal truth.
Now from a personal point of view, I will not burn anyone having a different opinion than me, we need everything and everyone to make a world and I respect everyone culture, beliefs, reasonments. I find it fantastic to be possible to exchange avbout everything without it finishs by a flood of witches or burning people because of beliefs. So I respect your point of view but I just disagree both on what you believe I believe and what you believe I said as I do not recognize myself in what you wrote.
There is a cool book about the judgement faculty by Kant to read among many.
I personally think our human being ontology is this power to question more than the faculty to answer. Acumulation of progress by the faculty to stock information and to learn permit progress, but animals needs and beliefs still govern the world... we are thinking animals, are we not ?
Of course you understand I do not care about the word of an US pilot or priest because of their nature. Even less from a pilot of comercial plane mixing hours of fligth and concept of verity.
I do not beginn with a presumption. I am just talking about some people opinion that extraterristrians exist because they see UFO they believe to be from allien. I start from there : their magic pinion. Irational. I do not know if alliens exist and even less if they have social and human characteristics like vehicle, needs to travel, needs about machine... but all of this looks like anthropomorphism identification. Projections to say it simply. And here we have a beginning of demonstration and not the claim of the truth or which is not the truth. There could be a chance you are rigth about flyinc saucers visit from the deep space, but intelectual tools of knowledge say more it is delirium tremens, anyway not a knowledge. Demonstrating that it is not existing if you can not prove it is the beginning of a knowledge, a solid point where you can use a lever
I do not see where my mistake is saying here a belief is either not a fact or a lack of proof. The fact is they saw something, the opinion beginns with their interpretation suited with the cloth of pop culture of their era. All those mechanisms are known and well documented in the history of philosophy, information theory, history of religion and myths.
It is not because one see a bush in fire than God exist or the God concept is true. You can not as well say a bush was firering because two people saw it ! Even less if it comes from an organisation which raison d'être is to obey to orders or preserve itself or not known interrests. I am not talking about plot, I am just saying some make colossus waffle on clay feet with no fact (truth) foundation. It is how are writen all the holy books. So stories to make Society not a scientifical proof. After you enter in the sophism zone.
So a phenomenom is not an evidence, you can put both on the same plan by language artifact. As far the phenomenom is not explained it stays without explanation, theories if not proved stay theoris; that's the basic of epistimology, rest is blah. And certainly serves other things than universal truth.
Now from a personal point of view, I will not burn anyone having a different opinion than me, we need everything and everyone to make a world and I respect everyone culture, beliefs, reasonments. I find it fantastic to be possible to exchange avbout everything without it finishs by a flood of witches or burning people because of beliefs. So I respect your point of view but I just disagree both on what you believe I believe and what you believe I said as I do not recognize myself in what you wrote.
There is a cool book about the judgement faculty by Kant to read among many.
I personally think our human being ontology is this power to question more than the faculty to answer. Acumulation of progress by the faculty to stock information and to learn permit progress, but animals needs and beliefs still govern the world... we are thinking animals, are we not ?
Of course you understand I do not care about the word of an US pilot or priest because of their nature. Even less from a pilot of comercial plane mixing hours of fligth and concept of verity.
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UFOs became UAPs, now they are being called "Sky trash"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...linked-to-the-mystery-objects-shot-down-by-us
"Experts, have however ruled out aliens. Tucker says that it’s likely “a lot of reports of UFOs could just be this sky trash we’re talking about.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...linked-to-the-mystery-objects-shot-down-by-us
"Experts, have however ruled out aliens. Tucker says that it’s likely “a lot of reports of UFOs could just be this sky trash we’re talking about.”
Cool looking, obviously, Manta Ray inspired ship design. Interesting, that the model manufacturer chose not to produce a more traditional saucer shape.
So now there is 171 ?
Project Blue Beam Phase 1 (False ET Invasion)
And from 1947 to 2021 ?
The Roswell UFO was a Sports Model designed for adventurous young Greys to take sightseeing trips down from the Mother Ship.
The Stingray design incorporated shape changing biomorphing wings which provided maneuverability in the Earth's atmosphere.
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The UFO+GreyGuy kit is a combo of an old Testor's UFO kit and a GreyGuy sourced elsewhere (apparently China) repacked by Lindberg.
video here
At the end of the instructions, around 6:55, there is a promo for the Area 51 UFO kit which is either a traditional flying saucer or a classic JBL speaker basket.
Also a Transparent Alien which is cooler than grey.
Yes, my kit is actually the 50th anniversary (1947-1997) re-release of the Testors Roswell UFO.
A Technical Note from the plans states that "There is some evidence the spacecraft possessed something of 'a living animal' quality." and "appeared to be synthetically sentient - capable of experiencing sensation and feeling. One wonders if the craft, when healthy, could repair itself too."
Here's the Testors Area 51 UFO kit for comparison:
On the other hand, that has been shown incorrect in some cases - distance misjudged etc.
Indeed - they like to buzz planets (qv "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"):
“Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets that haven’t made interstellar contact yet and buzz them.” “Buzz them?” Arthur began to feel that Ford was enjoying making life difficult for him. “Yeah,” said Ford, “they buzz them. They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one’s ever going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennas on their head and making beep beep noises.”
Imo if you sell today that old kits at Christies you have quite chance to get enough monney to purchase a true saucer !
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well the government is now saying that the objects they shot down are 'benign'. Let the conspiracy theories begin.........
oh no.... hope this is not the drone of a kid who was stealing the drying white sheet of the girl nextdoor.
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Here we have neutralizers everywhere, just a little biggers but with models adaptated with what you have to forget. Never remember the last 24h... Living always the same 24h is difficult to make progress with diy projects as with research about extraterristrian events. Maybe here we do not remember any phenomenoms in the sky because we always are on "all fours" ... sorta of ethno-psychiatry explanation ?😱
I can confirm it is working well... but so-so technology as you can see things as well !
I can confirm it is working well... but so-so technology as you can see things as well !
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Yes very correct, apparently the Montana drone was conveniently flying so slow that a F14 could shutdown it.
When the Government says its not aliens you know its probably aliens. 😆