Issue: Cannot write music files directly to Daphile internal storage.
Long time Vortexbox user, recently (i.e. last night) switched to Daphile.
I have Daphile installed on a NUC; it is reachable both wired and wireless from other network players (e.g. this PC); I can see the music files now on Daphile and the drives in the Daphile File Manager and Windows 10 File Explorer.
If I set up a network drive (via Settings, Storage), for example the music files on my Vortexbox server that I will deactivate, i can copy (e.g. drag and drop) to the Daphile internal storage. However, I cannot copy or drag and drop via File Explorer.
The Daphile drive where the music is stored is marked as "RW" in Settings/Storage.
I this normal, a permissioning issue or ???
Help is appreciated!
John
Long time Vortexbox user, recently (i.e. last night) switched to Daphile.
I have Daphile installed on a NUC; it is reachable both wired and wireless from other network players (e.g. this PC); I can see the music files now on Daphile and the drives in the Daphile File Manager and Windows 10 File Explorer.
If I set up a network drive (via Settings, Storage), for example the music files on my Vortexbox server that I will deactivate, i can copy (e.g. drag and drop) to the Daphile internal storage. However, I cannot copy or drag and drop via File Explorer.
The Daphile drive where the music is stored is marked as "RW" in Settings/Storage.
I this normal, a permissioning issue or ???
Help is appreciated!
John
You should be able to use Windows File Explorere. If Daphile is not showing as an item under network, you can access it through Windows File Explorer using the IP address (eg. "\\192.168.1.???"). Alternatively you can physically remove the music disk from Daphile, attach it to your windows device (eg. get a SATA to USB3 interface), then load the music within WIndows.
Has anyone tried to confirm my issue with the image presence of the centre channel. It's very strange but if you play a mono track you clearly hear the Left and Right signals but NOTHING in the centre. I have tried different Daphile installs (some dating back to 2021) on different computers and get the same result. If i do a plyaback on the same infrastructure using Foobar or Roon through USB connect to my DAC I get a clear central image.
Triplefun, thanks for the reply.
I can see Daphile (by name or IP address) in File Explorer. I cannot copy files by drag and drop within File Explorer. I was able to load my music files to the internal storage in a roundabout way, but wondered if I have some permissions set incorrectly.
No the only Daphile setting is the RW flag which you say you have set. File Copy / Paste works fine for me. It may be a firewall setting?
Since Daphile sharing is not password protected, you have to use SMB 1.0 in Windows. This can be enabled from the old Control panel under "Windows Features".
I have an old asus EeePC 900 collecting dust, could it be sufficient to run daphile? Intel Celeron M 0.9 Ghz CPU, 2 GB Ram, SSD 12GB (4+8)
Thank you
Thank you
Thanks for the reply. I already had SMB 1 enabled for Vortexbox. Not sure the issue, but i have a workaround.
I am on LMS 8.1.1
Is there a way to update this through Daphile? Or do I wait for a periodic releases?
Thanks.
Is there a way to update this through Daphile? Or do I wait for a periodic releases?
Thanks.
Might this be why I cannot get a wireless connection working with a TP-Link TL-WN823N USB dongle?
I have installed Daphile on an old NUC, which was a simple enough install but if I disconnect the ethernet cable Daphile just sits at the 'Waitng for Network Connection...' screen (I currently have a scren connected to the NUC). In Daphile I can see my home WiFi network and have set the correct password - see attached image below - I have no idea what 'ZeroTier ID' is?
One other thing, if I try to restart or shutdown Daphile it never completes but hangs at about 80% of the descending progress bar.
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In addition to SMB 1 there is a group policy setting you can make - providing you're using a Pro version of Windows.
In the group policy editor, go to: Computer Configuration > Administration Templates > Network > Lanman Workstation > Enable insecure guest logins. Enable it.
I don't know exactly if it's a security risk or not - personally, I'm not worried about it, but with that policy enabled I don't need SMB1
Possible.
In my case the beta did not even detect a USB NIC with a valid Ethernet connection. Unfortunately we're at the dev's mercy on this, and it might be time to start looking at alternatives. I'm going to take a last shot with a B660 motherboard and i3-12100, and see if Daphile at least recognises the 2.5 gBe at the rear. If not, It'll be time to move on.
Probably hazy as while there are new betas, there is still no compatibility with UEFI and Secure Boot That makes Daphile useless on most new laptops and mini-PCs, NUCs etc (which allow wifi/display access to only UEFI operating systems far as I can tell). Most newer Linux kernels can use those sort of network adapters even with secure boot disabled, so it's intuitive the latest beta does not have the latest kernel.
I'll be testing it later with a wider variety of PCs. Still, the appeal of Daphile being compatible with low-power and embedded systems is fading as newer ones come with Secure Boot + TPM + UEFI requirements (that Linux is now broadly compatible with, once it is disabled). Many systems no longer have the option for CSM boot, which might have helped.
I believe newer LMS versions are being rolled in, but since I cannot connect to the OS I have no way of finding out. There's also zero documentation of changes and updates, so it's impossible to tell what's actually going on. I believe this needs to be updated to reflect its status as possible abandonware.
That said, I still have hope. I'm building a new mini-PC with a 5600G and a mini-ITX motherboard. Parts should all be here next month and I'll give it a spin, and if not Daphile, then dietPi with a Squeezelite front-end + LMS on the same PC. I know that has a much better shot at working mostly out of the box, and DietPi still has very active support, developer is responsive to changes, and footprint is very low, lower than Daphile maybe. You will not have some of the better audio-specific features like resampling, but there's only so much we can do if the developer is not able to catch up with the hardware movement fast enough.
I sort of sympathise, because a lot of changes have happened in three years - not just in the computer space, and it's been the most pleasant time for anyone. There may be extenuating factors causing slow development, and Kipeta is not obligated to maintain the software or hand it over if they can't - many do, but it's not a compulsion. We'll just have to wait, or seek out other solutions. Which is a pity, Daphile is still my favorite by far.
I'll be testing it later with a wider variety of PCs. Still, the appeal of Daphile being compatible with low-power and embedded systems is fading as newer ones come with Secure Boot + TPM + UEFI requirements (that Linux is now broadly compatible with, once it is disabled). Many systems no longer have the option for CSM boot, which might have helped.
I believe newer LMS versions are being rolled in, but since I cannot connect to the OS I have no way of finding out. There's also zero documentation of changes and updates, so it's impossible to tell what's actually going on. I believe this needs to be updated to reflect its status as possible abandonware.
That said, I still have hope. I'm building a new mini-PC with a 5600G and a mini-ITX motherboard. Parts should all be here next month and I'll give it a spin, and if not Daphile, then dietPi with a Squeezelite front-end + LMS on the same PC. I know that has a much better shot at working mostly out of the box, and DietPi still has very active support, developer is responsive to changes, and footprint is very low, lower than Daphile maybe. You will not have some of the better audio-specific features like resampling, but there's only so much we can do if the developer is not able to catch up with the hardware movement fast enough.
I sort of sympathise, because a lot of changes have happened in three years - not just in the computer space, and it's been the most pleasant time for anyone. There may be extenuating factors causing slow development, and Kipeta is not obligated to maintain the software or hand it over if they can't - many do, but it's not a compulsion. We'll just have to wait, or seek out other solutions. Which is a pity, Daphile is still my favorite by far.
I know when I was looking at some new hardware for my Daphile I was specifically looking at old hardware (6th gen Intel NUC) just to avoid compatibility problems. Ended up recycling my old laptop for the duties. Works fine except the wifi seems to be flaking out (only 5GHz working, but seems to be a hardware issue not Daphile).
A couple points…
The page for the firmware (beta, etc) does have somewhat of a changelog. Maybe not enough info, I can't say for sure
Also you guys do know there is a "developer" page (http://your.ip.address/cgi-bin/Devel) if you're using the beta? You can use this to setup SSH and I'm guessing make all kinds of a mess out of the system (my Linux knowledge is pretty much non-existant so I've been avoiding it at all costs)
I do hope there's still plenty of life left for Daphile. Updates have been slow and far behind, but considering what real life has been doing to the world over the past few years, not surpising to see a hobby take a back seat.
<minor update> You don't actually need to activate SSH in the devel page. Just running the beta is enough for SSH access
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I use a pc ordered directly from qotom.net. they are mini, low power PCs. I don't know much about specs and what you guys are talking about. But I do know the mini-PCs I've bought from them are far from cutting edge.
I have the same nautibuoy problem here.
While connected via ethernet cable I can see my home WiFi networks (the wi-fi card is obviously working for that) but if I disconnect the ethernet cable Daphile just sits at the 'Waitng for Network Connection...' screen. No wi-fi connection.
My setup:
Is it possible to "inject" somehow the RTL8821CE drivers into Daphile via SSH (or other methods, since I'm running the beta)?
I have moved my system two rooms away from the router and now wi-fi connection would be handy (better than a 10m Cat6 patch cable + two holes in brick walls...)
Thanks,
Dr.T
BTW, I'm from Milan, Italy. Always been a vinyl-only type, but my daughter's music taste quite do not overlap with my collection and I'm giving liquid music universe a spin also...I guess it's my first post here, but member and lurking since 2015!
While connected via ethernet cable I can see my home WiFi networks (the wi-fi card is obviously working for that) but if I disconnect the ethernet cable Daphile just sits at the 'Waitng for Network Connection...' screen. No wi-fi connection.
My setup:
- TOPPING D10s DAC
- Daphile beta 22.10-b220931
- Celeron N3350 - 6GB RAM headless mini PC
- RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
Is it possible to "inject" somehow the RTL8821CE drivers into Daphile via SSH (or other methods, since I'm running the beta)?
I have moved my system two rooms away from the router and now wi-fi connection would be handy (better than a 10m Cat6 patch cable + two holes in brick walls...)
Thanks,
Dr.T
BTW, I'm from Milan, Italy. Always been a vinyl-only type, but my daughter's music taste quite do not overlap with my collection and I'm giving liquid music universe a spin also...I guess it's my first post here, but member and lurking since 2015!
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I think you should try an older version of Daphile. I have a DN2800MT from that era, and it was running a version from 2016, I think, and it ran just fine.
The problems are exclusive, as I understand it, to modern hardware and moodern versions of Daphile only. Older versions have no issues on older hardware, and I've not noticed too many features missing from the older ones.