Had anybody experience with tweeter what can be filtered at 1 kHz?
I know one, Dayton AMTPRO-4, but is is too big.
I need to fit it to smaller space, good if it is some type of ribbon but also dome type options can be suggested.
I know one, Dayton AMTPRO-4, but is is too big.
I need to fit it to smaller space, good if it is some type of ribbon but also dome type options can be suggested.
If you use a very steep crossover and don't have high output requirements, something like this might be worth considering.
ScanSpeak Illuminator D3004/6020-10 1" Tweeter Deep Chamber
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.c...minator-d3004/6020-10-1-tweeter-deep-chamber/
Keep in mind that smaller standard drivers are inherently going to have output limitations as frequency decreases. And as Zaph's measurements of other tweeters show, some with low resonance have poor distortion performance significantly above resonance, so don't go by resonance alone if you are looking for high performance.
Measurements and commentary for the above and a lot of other tweeters here:
http://www.zaphaudio.com/tweetermishmash/
ScanSpeak Illuminator D3004/6020-10 1" Tweeter Deep Chamber
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.c...minator-d3004/6020-10-1-tweeter-deep-chamber/
Keep in mind that smaller standard drivers are inherently going to have output limitations as frequency decreases. And as Zaph's measurements of other tweeters show, some with low resonance have poor distortion performance significantly above resonance, so don't go by resonance alone if you are looking for high performance.
Measurements and commentary for the above and a lot of other tweeters here:
http://www.zaphaudio.com/tweetermishmash/
Decca London, Heil AMT.
And my favourites, Alpair 5.2/3, FF85wk. They can be crossed even lower (ie 250-500 Hz)
dave
And my favourites, Alpair 5.2/3, FF85wk. They can be crossed even lower (ie 250-500 Hz)
dave
No, use it same as McIntosh did with mirror image line arrays.Had anybody experience with tweeter what can be filtered at 1 kHz?
I know one, Dayton AMTPRO-4, but is is too big.
I need to fit it to smaller space, good if it is some type of ribbon but also dome type options can be suggested.
Not per se as I either used horns, short arrays or 'full range' drivers, which there are many small ones nowadays.
I mentioned the Deccas London. It reaches as low as it does due to tthe horn. Lots of other horns reach that far, and some dome loaded waveguides.
dave
dave
maybe a Bliesma 34 or a DA32TX from Peereless with an eleptic filter ?!
Stage Accompany SA8535, Beyma TPL150/H and maybe the Alcons Audio Ribbons are appropriate for use from 1,2KHz - as I know.Ribbons and planars are very difficult to crossover low.
https://www.stageaccompany.com/products/ribboncd.html
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/amt-ess-1-vs-stage-accompany-sa8535-sa-8535.164153/
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...401-sa8535-ess-amt-or-beymas-tpl-150h.267960/
https://www.beyma.de/fileadmin/seiten/download/pdf/Beyma_2010/TPL-150_en.pdf
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/active-tpl-150h-and-12p80nd-v2-project.286060/
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...h-frequency-loudspeakers-where-to-buy.174137/
D3004/6020-10 is very close to what I need, only too long/deep.
SPL level what is needed is somwhere at 95 dB.
SPL level what is needed is somwhere at 95 dB.
https://www.scan-speak.dk/datasheet/pdf/d3004-602010.pdfIf you use a very steep crossover and don't have high output requirements, something like this might be worth considering.
ScanSpeak Illuminator D3004/6020-10 1" Tweeter Deep Chamber
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.c...minator-d3004/6020-10-1-tweeter-deep-chamber/
Keep in mind that smaller standard drivers are inherently going to have output limitations as frequency decreases. And as Zaph's measurements of other tweeters show, some with low resonance have poor distortion performance significantly above resonance, so don't go by resonance alone if you are looking for high performance.
Measurements and commentary for the above and a lot of other tweeters here:
http://www.zaphaudio.com/tweetermishmash/
fs 425 Hz but unfortunately recommend operated frequency range from 2500 Hz.
Unwanted power compression effects even present, when music isn't very loud from operating frequency from 1 KHz - even if the crossover network slope is 36db/oct. An alternative could be full range drivers in small sizes (e. g. FOSTEX FE series).
The Wavecor TW030A11 (4 Ohm) might be a possibility. It's a 30 mm tweeter in a waveguide (115 mm flange diameter) so it might be too large. Otherwise it might fit your needs. Here's the spec sheet: http://www.wavecor.com/html/tw030wa11_12.html. Here's the max SPL based on Sd and Xmax:
This is dependent on the driver. I've owned two different true ribbons and a pair of planars that were all crossed below 350Hz.Ribbons and planars are very difficult to crossover low.
If you keep listening levels sane, the Tymphany DX25BG60 will do what you need with a steep filter as will either Peerless Corundum domes. SBAcoustics SB29 can do it too…..I’ve crossed at 1.2khz 2nd order with no ill effects.
If wide off axis listening isn’t critical, a 3” fullrange driver is probably the better choice here…..Tymphany TC or TG9 and Faital Pro 3FE
If wide off axis listening isn’t critical, a 3” fullrange driver is probably the better choice here…..Tymphany TC or TG9 and Faital Pro 3FE
The Wavecor TW030A11 (4 Ohm) might be a possibility. It's a 30 mm tweeter in a waveguide (115 mm flange diameter) so it might be too large. Otherwise it might fit your needs. Here's the spec sheet: http://www.wavecor.com/html/tw030wa11_12.html. Here's the max SPL based on Sd and Xmax:
Level and distortion allow 1 kHz cut, but size is to big, outer diameter and magnet need to be smaller.
What about open back version of GRS PT2522-4?
https://www.parts-express.com/GRS-PT2522-4-3-1-2-Planar-Tweeter-4-Ohm-272-122
https://www.parts-express.com/GRS-PT2522-4-3-1-2-Planar-Tweeter-4-Ohm-272-122
Are there any 50 mm dome midrange drivers that play well at 10k? If I needed a high SPL tweeter from 1k up, that is where I would look. Giving up the final octave from 10k to 20k is an acceptable compromise in most cases.
I am using BG neo-8s crossed first order at 1,000 Hz. Works very well at my listening level.
This driver goes surprisingly low without distortion, lower than specs suggest.
This driver goes surprisingly low without distortion, lower than specs suggest.
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