I was wrong again. I watched the beginning of the topic.
i told you.
it’s way too early to be drinking in croatia time.
😂
Except when you use a crossover to do the same thing?
what is super super important to me is Timbre as a musician.
why i was considering getting the beryllium
Serbian time.i told you.
it’s way too early to be drinking in croatia time.
😂
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nah. i dislike EQs.
Good luck. This could be a long thread ...........
Hold your horses. If the man wants an expensive super tweeter, let him do so. Enjoying your audio gear is no exact science.
thanks Mark
I really don’t understand sometimes when I ask questions on here and get recommendations, and then if I don’t want to do the recommendation or disagree people get flustered.
because none of you can see my inflections, I am not saying this in an angry manner.
not at all.
if you could see me it would be more in a ‘ caring, understanding ‘ way.
I don’t like EQs in my chain. Sorry fellas I just don’t.
and yes thank you Mark, I want a really good tweeter which will give me good timbre reproduction.
In the grand scheme of things a $200 tweeter, for me at least , isn’t much money at all. you usually have to pay around $15k and up to get a tweeter of that caliber. So it isn’t much money at all the way I look at it and for my finances
Just so everyone can understand.
I am 53 , have no wife, no kids and no goldfish.
i am super conservative with my money, which means I saved a lot.
So I can afford to spend more on a tweeter.
Its lonely without a wife and kids, so I have my ‘ toys’.
Hope that helps everyone understand me more.
cheers!
Why are you switching to wattage specification? 2.83 volts is a whole lot easier to compare apples to apples.Now I found, all sensitivity data are given for 2.83V / 1m. Since the drivers are 4ohm, that means -3dB for 1W / 1m. In that case the old driver is 89dB 1W 1m and the new one is 91.5 db 1W 1m. So I say try 1R5 first and if it's too harsh, go for 1R8 or 2R2 resistors. It also depends on those capacitors in front of the tweeter. In principle the better they are, the brighter they sound, although not in all cases.
Why are you switching to wattage specification? 2.83 volts is a whole lot easier to compare apples to apples.
it was the wrong tweeter anyway.
the tweeter I have now is 92db and the new one ( 3004/6600) is 91.5db.
i did the simulation in XSIM and the resitor should be lowered from 1.5ohms to 1ohm to give a similar response.
of course I need to learn what xsim shows and what happens in the real world.
so, as a result I will put in the 1ohm resistor listen and take measurements to see if the highs blend smoothly with the rest of the freq at the xo point.
if the tweeter is playing higher or lower I need to adjust so they can be as seamless as possible.
any words of wisdom on that process so I can learn ahead of time ?
legit question.
any tips or tricks?
thanks in advance
Just have fun!
haha
ok I’m good at that.
im actually having a lot of fun doing this. Thanks man.
are there any really good books on speaker building you can recommend?
ones that start off slow but can get pretty advanced?
i would like a book to teach me
- What kind of box I need for certain drivers. Or the other way around even. If I have a box, what kind of speakers can I put in there and make minor modifications to the box to have the best response.
- box filling and how to do it with a scientific manner. Not just trying blindly.
-crossover design
anything really good out there ?
thank you
Just have fun!
the datasheet for that tweeter and actually my current tweeter recommend a 2nd order Butterworth high pass filter.
but Im pretty sure the filter in my xo is 3rd order.
is this correct from the pic attached of my tweeter circuit?
What you have looks 4th order.
i thought the resistor doesn’t count as an order
It doesn't. The tweeters natural rolloff does.
Consider.. that recommendation you read mainly is to protect from overexcursion.
thanks
so they recommend a -6db slope by saying 2nd order Butterworth?
mine has more of a 12db rolloff
are there any really good books on speaker building you can recommend?
There's a thread for that! https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...dspeaker-design-cookbook.383556/#post-6966988
There's a thread for that! https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...dspeaker-design-cookbook.383556/#post-6966988
is it still $4.50 ?
🤣
The manufacturer recommends at least a second order filter, that's 12dB/oct and it makes your tweeter close to 4th order, which is 24dB/oct.
hey Allen,
is this what you guys kinda do when designing a crossover?
choose drivers and then ‘ play ‘ with XSIM with component values that are reasonable ?
oh and to have the Impedance smooth?
like the below?
or is that a really bad design cause the rolloffs are really shallow?
thanks!
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