US Naval pilots "We see UFO everyday for at least a couple of years"

This thread is not about ancient aliens. It’s about armed services personnel having encounters with that which meets the definition of UFO/UAP.

You know things are bad when the denialists are just as bad as the true believers at dragging things off topic. It’s because neither of the two can be bothered to do basic research.
Yeah I know.

Roswell covers the history well of armed services having encounters.

The Army recovered the " crash" on the ground
And was claimed the RAAF recovered a actual flying disc

otherwise I was answering your previous questions, contained in the thread.
or otherwise examining the curiosity of why most the media surrounds the phenomena
comes mainly from certain regions

maybe the Aliens have improved since 1947.
They dont crash no more. Otherwise the first encounters werent blurry photos.
They actually had physical contact with a Vessel.

Seams weird they actually had physical parts in hand in 1947.
But now we cant even get clear photos.
Otherwise there doesnt seem to be much research to do.
They are Aliens obviously...we knew that since 47

And we had " craft" stored in Area 51 for a long time.
Even dead Alien pilots. What exactly would we be investigating
that we dont already know
 
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Let me help you: Roswell is the most famous alleged crash/retrieval. Aztec precedes it. Ancient Aliens have nothing to do with Kenneth Arnold, Arnold’s sighting being the most famous of the early public accounts.

A lack of paying attention is no excuse to muddy the waters.

I asked how a formerly lost case like Roswell could be an integral part of the mythology of the 50/60/70s when it was largely absent. You never answered.
I guess it’s not just alien abductees who cannot account for lost time.
 
Handwringing about clear photos of craft/debris is among the most disingenuous argumentation I have ever encountered. I am way more sympathetic to the validity of the UFO phenomena than most on this thread and it would take far more than a “clear photo” of a craft or debris for me to believe in alien visitors or nuts&bolts UFOs.

Give me a break.
 
The question was answered.

Roswell is integral for many reasons. It shows false information was created to confuse/cover up / divide opinions to distract away
from military development.
The development at the time would have been a huge concern, and actual security concern that citizens and other military's
would be very scared they were strapping atomic weapons to rockets

The False information was a UFO crashed.

Meaning any current news or media claiming UFO/UAP

Is playing with the same psychology to confuse/ divide opinions and cause a distraction for current
top secret plans. And no it isnt another military cover up. Its the people that write their paychecks

Thinking that they don't investigate, UFO/UAP is absurd.
They spent billions of dollars to watch everything, on the ground and air.
And they do it everyday.

So its just making a issue about something already being done for a long long time.

So that is the point. It is a intentional false distraction
Otherwise as noted by many, is a waste of time and to be ignored.
Unless you like to play along with the game.

Quite literally obvious since UFO is a old 50's term. they literally changed the name
to try and separate and disguise the same tactics being
 
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Its just distraction from the next gen stealth planes ;)
Which they announce and publish often.
None of these bluffs are hiding new military developments.

History repeats itself, but it doesn't repeat exactly to the old script.

All it shows is UFO/UAP was used in the past to hide things, bad things.

Ironically they are smart and stupid at the same time.
The intentions are bad, and its just like a teenager lying with Guilt to his parents.
The lies and storys are just plain stupid and make no sense when people lie with bad intentions
 
Im not familiar with the name, but might have been exposed to opinions or issues covered in the text.

If it is going to convince me Aliens UFO or UAP is real unexplained.

I'll let you know my original believe was I believed in UFO/UAP and Aliens.

But then upon further personal investigations and reading between the lines of the propaganda, and real world evidence
I quickly realized it was just that.
Actually not quickly at all, firm believer for many years.
And again de classified roswell information is a very clear start to realizing.
Being upset and feeling a victim for being bluffed . not only I wanted to know how it is done, but why it is done.

Blurry pictures is not a absurd gesture.
It is more a insult to a billion dollar industry.
They have technology to take clear photos, even more tech to tell you heat, material etc etc.

the blurry pictures play into the bluff of creating the phenomenon.

been 75 years now and thousands of reports.
Ironically there is clear photos. The clear ones get debunked rather quickly.
And yes we are well aware of countless fakes being generated since 47
 
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Blurry pictures is not a absurd gesture.
It is more a insult to a billion dollar industry.
They have technology to take clear photos, even more tech to tell you heat, material etc etc.

the blurry pictures play into the bluff of creating the phenomenon.
The US gubment can take a clear picture of a spleef hidden under your pillow from space... but can't get a clear picture of a so-called UFO. That is truly beyond absurd. The US gubment has the most advanced surveillance technology available.

Bluffs and wedge issues are force fed to US citizens 24/7. We are probably one of the most propagandized populations on the planet. And now millions of Americans are going down the stupidest rabbit holes like flat earth and young earth creationism. Alien/UFO crapola is mild compared to mainstream American delusional beliefs. The stupid hurts.
 
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There’s more to the subject than tall tales about extra terrestrial spacecraft. There’s literally a decades long government sponsored disinformation campaign that’s ripe for investigation. I would like to say I’m not sure how people miss this but unfortunately I’m well aware how people miss this.
 
All you need to do is watch the "news" on TV. It's a bunch of loaded buzzwords and logical fallacies. There's facts in there.... somewhere. But we're supposed to let other people do our thinking for us. That's what talking heads are paid the big bucks to do.

I grew up during the Cold War so I was pumped full of lies and BS. Nothing's changed except the boogieman du jour. But what perterbs me the most is that the US has gone from emphasizing scientific advancement through education, to being most decidedly anti-scientific.
 
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Science was promoted because of defense and because the Soviets put a man in space before Uncle Sam. The Soviets were supposed top be stupid, backward, moribund, bumbling incompetents. But in reality they weren't, and they kicked sand in Uncle Sam's face when they put a man in space. That's why Kennedy said the US would put a man on the moon. It was about comparing penis sizes, nothing more.
 
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Roswell covers the history well of armed services having encounters.
How is a clearly staged crash/retrieval without an accompanying UFO report that was virtually forgotten for the following four decades in any way shape or form indicative of UFO reports during those same four decades?

Did any pilots report anything? No, because Roswell was not a UFO encounter.
 
It’s entirely possible to be open towards the topic of UFOs without indulging obvious bs, like Roswell being a crashed UFO or the Rendlesham encounter. It just requires a willingness to engage the subject in a rigorous way and most people (especially true believers) are too lazy to do this, regardless of how vocal they may be in issuing their opinion.

Roswell has been well researched from multiple angles. The documented evidence suggests a government sponsored hoax. That is interesting in and of itself. Members of the intelligence community have imbedded themselves in UFO organizations since the 40s. They have also manipulated UFO researchers. This is documented stuff and is the topic of the documentary film Mirage Men that I’ve repeatedly recommended.

The bs continues to this day. We’re seeing it right now with the congressional stuff being reported on currently. The guy in charge of it all is even open about being a disinfo agent previously which is the only new twist this time around.
 
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