My cheapest alternative charges $4.40 per gallon for 89 octane here in Silicon Valley. Everyone else is over $5 per gallon.
In Toronto, fuel will go up 6 cents at midnight, but it's expected to drop 15 cents on Friday at midnight so if you can wait till then it'll probably be cheaper.
I love this grassroots mentality: so Bezos is entitled to a superyacht of a size which requires Rotterdam to dismantle a bridge so it can sail out of harbor; he can also fly out to space on a whim for no value added to humanity; and we are to worry about our carbon footprint and be put through shocks for the betterment of the humanity.
I think my not having had access to efficient public transportation and having had to put up with a long commute has worked very well for a very long time for the likes of Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Exxon, etc. We even had to pay for a myriad of military conquests so they could get their hands on cheap oil worldwide; their appointees straight from the company positions to the Secretary of State and National Security Advisor posts (C. Rice, R. Tillerson, Hadley, Baker, etc.) did not bat an eyelash over civilian "collateral damage"; just made cool Hollywood movies for us about special ops to enjoy over popcorn. And the fact that the whole world is bound to trade energy in the currency which Fed can print ad nauseum is dandy for them too. Now they confiscated ~$430bill of Russian central bank's money and I did not see them giving subsidies at the gas station either. The lead time for any oil order is three months but spot price shot up from day one of this latest war? who is profiting from the stock bought up on the cheap months ago? We are to face paint ourselves blue and yellow and just pay for the inflation after the energy cost has made it into all products. Way to go for the masses. I see they are deleting Oliver Stone's documentary "Ukraine on Fire" everywhere so people could not get a real perspective on the war. Wow, I finally succumbed to the temptation to stray away from the diyaudio discussion and drop a bit here in the lounge. I think we should start talking about lounge music...
See, the speculators are trying to influence opinion.
India has had a bio-gas system based on farm waste / compost / cow dung for decades, many villages have piped gas, independent of the grid, so to speak.
Alcohol from sugar cane is also being mixed in gasoline, it tends to attract moisture, thus causing corrosion in cars that were made when the use of alcohol was not common.
America has a lot of idle oil capacity, it will take weeks to ramp up...equipment which was idled has to be inspected, tested, then put into service.
The major issue will be that many of the staff may have fallen sick, or retired.
And doing that short term, hiring somebody, and then letting them go as oil prices fall, will make people lose confidence in the industry.
India has had a bio-gas system based on farm waste / compost / cow dung for decades, many villages have piped gas, independent of the grid, so to speak.
Alcohol from sugar cane is also being mixed in gasoline, it tends to attract moisture, thus causing corrosion in cars that were made when the use of alcohol was not common.
America has a lot of idle oil capacity, it will take weeks to ramp up...equipment which was idled has to be inspected, tested, then put into service.
The major issue will be that many of the staff may have fallen sick, or retired.
And doing that short term, hiring somebody, and then letting them go as oil prices fall, will make people lose confidence in the industry.
Te-he. We topped-off BOTH cars last week.
And forgot. We had to go out for flour "and gas! Before it goes up again!" but halfway there I saw the needle solid "F" and we scratched that off the list.
$4.19 (club price) to $4.39 (on lonely highway) per wine-gallon of Regular.
And forgot. We had to go out for flour "and gas! Before it goes up again!" but halfway there I saw the needle solid "F" and we scratched that off the list.
$4.19 (club price) to $4.39 (on lonely highway) per wine-gallon of Regular.
Koja, people have short memories.
I always find it "interesting" all the bitching by USA people about $4.00 a gallon gasoline when it was over $4.00 a gallon in Sigonella Sicily back in 1974 when I was stationed there.
USA people are so ignorant. Ooooo BIG 4-wheel drive 2500KG pick up truck, I just have to have one! Gas is only $2.00 a gallon (Like it is not going to go back up).
Duh!
I feel sorry for the rest of the planet where prices are so much greater.
I always find it "interesting" all the bitching by USA people about $4.00 a gallon gasoline when it was over $4.00 a gallon in Sigonella Sicily back in 1974 when I was stationed there.
USA people are so ignorant. Ooooo BIG 4-wheel drive 2500KG pick up truck, I just have to have one! Gas is only $2.00 a gallon (Like it is not going to go back up).
Duh!
I feel sorry for the rest of the planet where prices are so much greater.
There was a character called Meyer Meyer in the Travis McGee novels, and he made the sobering assessment that there is simply not enough raw material left on the planet to give every person the same life style as the USA.
Not enough to build everybody a boat, two cars, and so on.
This was in the 1960s, I think.
The USA uses a lot of resources per capita compared to the rest of the world, pioneering spirit, individuality and so on.
Just an opinion...
And like above, I see no need to drive a hulking truck to go have a beer or whatever.
Look up Toorak Tractors, and give an embarrassed smile...
Not enough to build everybody a boat, two cars, and so on.
This was in the 1960s, I think.
The USA uses a lot of resources per capita compared to the rest of the world, pioneering spirit, individuality and so on.
Just an opinion...
And like above, I see no need to drive a hulking truck to go have a beer or whatever.
Look up Toorak Tractors, and give an embarrassed smile...
Oh, I think a more effective comparison would be the number of hours you need to work to buy a unit of gasoline.
It is much less for North America than many places in the world.
There is a magazine called "The Economist", their standard of comparison is the price of a Big Mac in cities across the world.
It is much less for North America than many places in the world.
There is a magazine called "The Economist", their standard of comparison is the price of a Big Mac in cities across the world.
You don't want to generalize the population based on small percentage of people who own of BIG 4-wheel drive 2500KG pick up truck or the likes.
Given that farmers need big trucks, and may have only one vehicle, yes the perceptions of people in the rural areas would be different from those in the cities.
I suggest that a look at the sales figures over the past 5 years would give a more balanced view of the situation.
I suggest that a look at the sales figures over the past 5 years would give a more balanced view of the situation.
In the UK we term 4x4 SUVs as "Chelsea tractors". Chelsea is the inner area in London that the ultra rich populate. House basement extensions were so popular (including rotary car parks, swimming pools, whole complete spas, cinemas etc) that they finally decided to ban new developments due to building noise/structural issues. House prices in Kensington & Chelsea are around £35M ($47M) for a townhouse but the record was $262M.
I digress - the Chelsea tractor is the name given to all the parents taking their kids to school in the largest Mercedes/Lamborghini/Porsche 4x4 SUV you can think of. The term now applies to any parents taking their kids to school in an expensive SUV. Why tractor? Well have you sat behind a tractor that's causing a massive tailback, blocks the road? Same on the school run where traffic jams are now common.
In the UK, pickups are only popular for building trade and for farming although the engine sizes are smaller than the US, typically 2.4 litre. Most Merc/BMW SUVs are in the region of 3.0-4.5 litre. However the UK government is to stop the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2030.
We even have electric London Hackney cabs!
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I do agree with you, but make no mistake: everybody else on the planet would love to do the same. The US just got there first.
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You do realize that all this happens because we want it to? If you broadcast to the world that you absolutely can't live without copious amounts of a certain substance, lots of people will come to your doorstep to sell it to you. For a price.
We continue to shoot ourselves in the feet royally and still continue to blame others. 'Intelligent Species', my foot!
Jan
Yes.... I am a bit confused about the EV calculation, because about 98% of the electric power I use to drive it is included in my household consumption, not "in addition to".
Here's the calculation with everything properly entered into the various fields:
And here's where I only list the the electricity consumption of the car when we are travelling to family living far away (vacation)+ a little bit extra:
So I don't get it, the calculator is flawed. It also does not take into account how frequently you change cars, bikes, TV's, how many of each of those you have and so on.
Wife drives Tahoe, me a Silverado 6.2; glad we are not driving much these days.
Buy gas at Costco, or use reward points from the grocery store (.60 off the other day)
Typically buy Top Tier, but getting the bargain priced gas and adding Lucas
Shell V power runs best in the Silverado, buy on Tuesday, it's discounted.
Why do they only sell sell 94 in Canada? lol
Buy gas at Costco, or use reward points from the grocery store (.60 off the other day)
Typically buy Top Tier, but getting the bargain priced gas and adding Lucas
Shell V power runs best in the Silverado, buy on Tuesday, it's discounted.
Why do they only sell sell 94 in Canada? lol
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Yes, these calculators all tend to be bunk, and a bit pointless. The result isn't anything like reality. I guess it's intended to make people think about the consequences of their actions, but I don't see how inaccurate data helps that, and.. even if it was 100% accurate, it's not the way to successfully influence people...
Climate change is real, and we do need to do something - but there is so much misinformation and bad data it's depressing. And then governments announce actions that are more PR than real help. Sigh....
It is fundamentally unjust that when you have money you have the right pollute and waste fuel as much as you want. There should be a global system like airmiles but the inverse: the more one uses fossil, the less rights you have left. Like food distribution during a war. That's what it feels like to me, we have to defend the planet because people who don't give a hoot are waging war against it.
Well, higher electricity costs because of ACER and then higher gas prices because of a certain "special operation"/outright war will most certainly make an impact. 2 years of lockdown helped a bit before that.
I wouldn't say that Governments do nothing, it's more that they are making some decisions that will make everything more expensive for each and every one of us and they are making sure to put focus on something else or other countries as the cause. It's not popular politics to increase prices, but some things should cost more money or nothing will ever happen.
I honestly think that gas should cost a lot, 3 USD per liter would be good. It's not written anywhere that having a car is a human right, aside from the fact that some people should never find themselves behind a steering wheel, society has evolved into a reliancy on personal transportation which is, from an environmental perspective, completely unethical. I wish I had a job that was close enough to ride a bike to and from, I've done that before, but in this day and age it is absolutely impossible for me to get just about anything done without a car.
Having a car is not a human right, it should be a luxury and not a necessity.
I am completely broke with all the increased costs of just about everything these days, and that will not change in the foreseeable future. But I am having a hard time arguing that prices should go down because it is very much helping "the change".
My hope is that in a few years I might be able to have a job closer to home, and that the car will be used sparingly.
Agree with gijser here:
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