VINYL will never die !

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#81
Halauhula said:
Personally, if money were no object, I'd go for 15 ips copies of tape to tape, and play that back on a 3M M79 tape machine (forget Studer).
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After doing some minor servicing last year, my Akai 4000D sounds beautiful as it should.

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#85
Halauhula said:
I love Kodachrome. But the ASA 25 and ASA 64 film speed was something I had to constantly struggle with in the field (Hawaiian plants and general forest scenes, shots of people in shady gulches and valleys). Plus the cost of film and processing.... I use the iPhone now and while it has its limitations (at least the one I have has no optical Zoom, and the internal processing shifts color even when I do not want it to), its enough for me.

And thank you for your observation on digital transfer of analogue tape to digital, as compared with transfer to vinyl. I think the analogue folks would argue, and I would agree, that if the transfer to vinyl is done right, it does produce a "Kodachrome" sound that pleases more than the digital transfer. However, for me the deal-breaker is the finicky set-up and cost required to have a good LP playback experience.

Personally, if money were no object, I'd go for 15 ips copies of tape to tape, and play that back on a 3M M79 tape machine (forget Studer).
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I have been in the position many times where I could compare a decent cassette copy of a master against the LP produced on decent equipment. The Cassette always won hands down for insight, depth and dynamics (still not like the master though). Top highs were a bit fuzzy but they were on that medium.
Many times us engineers and producers we worked with would try to add clout to some instruments \tracks because "thats not strong enough and will sound like sh** by the time it gets to vinyl".
I understand the tactile stuff with LPs and how it was as for me when there was no better option...but it shure as hell is a second rate copy of any master... a 12 inch 45 almost keeps up though .. anyone who has listened to a well recorded one will detect the extra clout... you won't get that from 33 LP grove.. simples.
 
#86
To acquire Master Tape is from my limited knowledge most likely to be a real quest, and the average person entering into this replay method today, would not be aware of and find it hard to come by any of the considerations required to ensure a Very Good Quality Tape or Reel to Reel Tape Machine was being purchased.
The advocates of the Reel to Reel Tape medium are looking to be quite rare as well.
Vinyl as a medium, which I don't doubt can be a lesser medium compared to Master Tape, is much more readily available, with a much wider pool of users and is a much better understood medium, along with the knowledge on offer from advocates about the playback ancillaries that produce the most satisfactory rewards when adopted.
 
#89
If "Vinyl" becomes the new term for Long Playing Record, then Vinyl now has a new, alternate meaning. Nothing wrong with the new meaning taking on a standard plural form. If Vinyl = Records would you say "I own many record?" Or is Vinyl required to remain a collective noun?
 
#94
To me, records are records, LP's, 45's......... that's what we always called them for decades
I've no intention of using hipster-trendy new names for them.

And record players were just that, as well.... not "vinyl players".
Ugh!

Can you imagine how stupid the company "Columbia Records" would sound if you changed the name to.....
Vinyls?
 
#100
It's not about having the purest analog sound, but about the value the music has when it's pressed on vinyl. Most music nowadays is streamed so it's becoming less worth. I remember when I deleted my mp3 collection and moved to streaming services, but then I realized I'm at the mercy of the provider and songs started to disappear from my library without any notice. I gave up and got my mp3 collection back and set up a streaming server at home.
Quite the same thing with vinyl, having the record in your hand gives a whole different value to the music. I mostly listen to music that has been produced digitally anyway, so I don't really believe in the quality of vinyl. It's all about the physicality.
 
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