Your electrical rate per KW/HR

Mine is .09 cents per KW/H or exactly .08983

Also a basic monthly charge of $8.86 and taxes on total of 6.4%

no peak rate here and is generated from a hydro dam

no big wind power or solar in the north and any would be private and mostly off grid.

The winds are stronger and more consistent in the south also.

No NG piping in the north here, but a few still burn LPG and Oil as electricity wasn't plentiful here till the 70's. There are a few people burning wood also.

I'm on the border with Saskatchewan where the border town of Creighton is under a different power grid as they have a little hydro in the unpopulated north
and mostly coal (being replaced by NG ) in the rest of the province.

The gov. utility in my province is building more dams as they had planned to sell to the US, but now they don't need it because of plentiful NG so Saskatchewan
will buy it.

To pay for the dams they want to put our rate up to .15 / KWh what they pay in Sask. in the next 4 or 5 yrs.

Sask also charges a basic monthly rate of $41.49/month.

There is a NG in the south of both Manitoba and Sask also. so it saves on their heating costs.
 
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Its Uswitch time!

My kWh costs are similar, standing charge about half that, Mooly.

Tbh I wish I had Economy7. It doesnt seem to exist anymore, least the dual meters dont.

Canada is lucky with topology and hydro, as is much of Europe.

Installed base Hydro is probably at least 30 years old and so kWh is cheap.
New install Wind is not cheap per kWh, if they last 30 years as the hydro, then perhaps it will be affordable to be green; just before I pass over. 😀
 
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Electric billing can be complicated and hard to compare. Especially zero consumption is never zero billing, and huge consumption can be negotiated to low rates. In much of the US, Distribution and Transmission are separate businesses usually on one bill. Then there can be meter fee, conservation Charge(!), and good old Stranded Costs.

I just divide Amount Due by kWh. USA Dollars:

Feb: $137/745kHw = $0.184/kWh
Mar: $132/718kWh = $0.184/kWh

AHH!! I am paying $10/month to insure my 500' private line against treefalls. As an alternative to keeping a large amount of savings against a rainy/stormy day. Most folks rationally live closer to the street and line.

Feb: $127/745kHw = $0.17/kWh
Mar: $122/718kWh = $0.17/kWh

This in eastern coastal Maine. We are dismantling our hydro (bad for fish); I think coal has largely converted to gas. Solar projects make news so are niche players. Wind is built way up in the hills and AFAIK sold to Boston as credit against their carbon use.

10+ years ago in suburban New Jersey I was paying $0.14 to $0.17/kWh. I think the Maine utility works thriftier (lower salaries but also lower grade of service).
 
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I'd need to ask my wife the cost of our electricity units as she handles all the bills! 😉

However, I will comment from a Scottish perspective in regard to hydroelectric power.

Scotland has the UK's highest mountains and largest inland lochs (lakes). Combined with a high rainfall, this makes production of hydroelectricity viable in the country.

Currently, 85% of the UK's hydroelectric energy is generated in Scotland.
 
All on $CDN. Using PRR's method of lumping various fees into a rate.

Electricity = $0.155/kWh

Gas (big fluctuations in cost) = $9.515/GJ

Water = $1.85/m3

Wastewater = $2.41/m3

Stormwater, waste, recycling = $38.60/month
 
I'll have to look, it's less than $.10/kWh up to a certain usage, I think 250kWh or so, then increases to a little over $.10

Even with central air in the summers and temps up to 110F, my all time highest electricity bill was $165, and that was on the old AC unit - the new one uses a lot less electricity.
 
Its Uswitch time!

My kWh costs are similar, standing charge about half that, Mooly.

Tbh I wish I had Economy7. It doesn't seem to exist anymore, least the dual meters dont.

I think it is still available to new customers, at least I haven't seen anything saying it isn't.

One future problem for me could be electric car charging because I can pull around 20kW during some periods of the E7 overnight period and that doesn't leave much over before the 100A fuse would pop 😀

I don't know what the situation is there, if a customer wants more than the maximum 100A single phase supply could deliver.

It's quite a nice graph visually. String the years end to end and its a good sine wave.
 

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Checking my bill. It is very complicated these days. One enterprise provide the grid and one the energy. The grid company also wants a share on how much is "shipped". The energy supplier only for what was consumed:

Attach my specification... 2065skr (200€)/ 1074kwh = 2kr/kwh -> 0,2€/kwh

But as you can see, 75% is for the more or less fixed grid/network cost - not so much incentive to save energy...

80€ is tax. Born free, taxed to death ;-D

This for 2 months (oct/nov so colder) for my countryside small house.

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flat rate $0.289 AU / KW/H
daily supply charge $0.84 AU
feed in rate $0.095 AU / KW/H

using PRR's cost / KW/H give 0.322 / KW/H (after discount is applied)

This last month has been much cooler so usage is low. 1st March must have been a hot day...

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Its Uswitch time!

Tbh I wish I had Economy7. It doesnt seem to exist anymore, least the dual meters dont.


It does but now as well as a dual element meter you need a nifty box called an HCALCS (Han Connected Auxiliary Load Control Switch - seriously who comes up with these names) which is a very expensive way of doing what a subcarrier on R4 LW managed very well. But we cannot stop progress.



Being pedantic economy 7 hasn't been around for about 20 years as they changed it to superdeal 10 where you get 7 hours at night and 3 during the day.



Now Mooly has a very good rate. My Mother has recently gone off superdeal back to normal as she has an electric boiler and being 87 likes it on during the day and not only in the middle of the night.
 
$.12 at “ peak” hours and $.06 off peak. Plus a few dollars a month fee.

We have solar panels on the roof. Using PRR’s method of lease cost/kWh were paying about $.20 kWh. This cost is totally offset by the SREC solar renewable energy credit. The state pays us for our generation so in the end we end up with very nearly free electricity.
 
Where I am now in Florida it's cheap because our electric is a county co-op. Starting at $0.076 and rising to $0.097 with increased usage.

At my last residence it was about $0.52 which is why solar made so much sense.
 
Here in South Dakota I'm part of an electric coop. My highly efficient small residence averages 100 KwH per month. Electricity charge is 0.10/KwH, except peak is 100X that and is 8 hours of the day. That's right 100X. There is a $35/month meter fee. So even with shutting off the refrigerator during peak my bill is about $50/month.