An accurately measured 481.0 nF polyprop cap measured 489.2 nF in the LCR-4, another 1.7% deviation.You got me curious, so I did the calibration and some caps testing:
On low cap values, the last 2 digits change a bit when the test is repeated, but still within 1%.
- 2uF (2.048uF & D=0.001 as per my 0.7% Megger LCR): 2.043u, 1.3R
- 100nF 1%: 100.6nF
- 10nF 1%: 9981/9937/9944pF
- 1nF 1%: 1001/995/996pF
I'm blown away!!!
There are 6 resistors used for measuring, 680 and 470k, 3 of each.
I have ordered 0.1% 10ppm versions to replace the existing ones.
No idea if this improves accuracy, but will let it know.
Hans
That sony TV is using "actuators on the back. Its really a polyplanar speaker. And do you really want your TV shaking when the sound it loud? it does not help the sharpness.
My statement about flexing the panel was more of a question than an affirmation of their technology.
An OLED array is a pretty small and finely 'finessed' structure - not sure how it deals with flexing over the long term.
My statement about flexing the panel was more of a question than an affirmation of their technology.
An OLED array is a pretty small and finely 'finessed' structure - not sure how it deals with flexing over the long term.
It’s praised all over by reviewers calling this the best TV money can buy including the sound, but that tells nothing about longevity.
Hans
Are OLED TV any good? I just get put off by the demo videos playing in costco. The colours are so oversaturated my eyeballs hurt. I assume you can set them up to look realistic rather than horrific?
Are OLED TV any good? I just get put off by the demo videos playing in costco. The colours are so oversaturated my eyeballs hurt. I assume you can set them up to look realistic rather than horrific?
LOL I've said this on several forums and usually get plenty of abuse.
LOL I've said this on several forums and usually get plenty of abuse.
Qled is much worse in this respect. OLED respects colour space and oversaturation can be dialed out. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I still have the last model of 65" Samsung Plasma TV in the living room and the picture is very pleasing and relaxing for the eyes. HD material is fun to watch.
I never really liked the newer 48" Full HD LED Samsung I have and gave it to the children which like the bubbly colors.
The 2 year old 50" Phillips Ultra HD LED is another animal, HD and even low res content is delivered in fascinating quality. Even my German Shepard-Malinoit loves to watch nature films on it.
While the picture on the Philips is great, the menu and reactions of the remote are slow and not logical. The wireless remote interferes with i-Phones. Ridiculous. THe smart TV functionality is a bad joke. Better never buy anything Philips! I did regret it any time I ignored the last, bad experience because of the ultra low price. A TV you can not use for zapping with 1200 satellite stations...
I never really liked the newer 48" Full HD LED Samsung I have and gave it to the children which like the bubbly colors.
The 2 year old 50" Phillips Ultra HD LED is another animal, HD and even low res content is delivered in fascinating quality. Even my German Shepard-Malinoit loves to watch nature films on it.
While the picture on the Philips is great, the menu and reactions of the remote are slow and not logical. The wireless remote interferes with i-Phones. Ridiculous. THe smart TV functionality is a bad joke. Better never buy anything Philips! I did regret it any time I ignored the last, bad experience because of the ultra low price. A TV you can not use for zapping with 1200 satellite stations...
As mentioned both the OLED and the QLED are calibrated once installed and after approx. 100 hours of use. If you buy the TV at a TV shop it's already paid for. If you ever check the settings on the TVs in the Costco or Walmarts you quickly realize why they look so fake.
I like self emissive tv's better. Plasma was good. Now oled is the new plasma. Some new hybrid types are in the works that use micro leds or white oleds through a color filter.
The sound coming from the surface of the tv screen ought to give perfect 'imaging' lol.That sony TV is using "actuators on the back. Its really a polyplanar speaker. And do you really want your TV shaking when the sound it loud? it does not help the sharpness.
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I like self emissive tv's better. Plasma was good. Now oled is the new plasma. Some new hybrid types are in the works that use micro leds or white oleds through a color filter.
All the LG TVs are white OLEDs through color filters. Actually, they are not really white emitters by themselves, they are composed of blue and yellow I think. Only smartphone panels are direct RGB OLED subpixels (in PenTile arrangement). Samsung is working on a similar technology for upcoming TVs close to what LG is using, except I think they will be using blue OLEDs instead of white with their quantum dot color filters. The advantages are that they can reuse the same color filters as in their current LCD products (I HATE the term QLED), and since the blue OLED is the worst in terms of aging, the panel should perform more uniformly over time since all of the emissive elements are the same type.
I like emissive displays too, but OLED and plasma both have lower peak brightness in general and burn-in is still a thing. I guess burn-in is not a big concern for TV applications, but it's preventing it from taking over the monitor market. Black levels of newer LCDs haven't bothered me that much, but it depends on your room and viewing conditions obviously.
Qled is much worse in this respect. OLED respects colour space and oversaturation can be dialed out. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Yeah, Samsung TVs set up for demo in stores are usually incredibly saturated. I hated when they started calling LCD TVs LED TVs, and I find QLED even more disingenuous. Gotta wow them in the store to sell the TV, though. Almost no one prefers an accurate display. I have a hard enough time getting relatives to turn off the "soap opera effect" interpolation.
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I like self emissive tv's better. Plasma was good. Now oled is the new plasma. Some new hybrid types are in the works that use micro leds or white oleds through a color filter.
I had a high-end Pioneer plasma and thought it was great, but I will state the LG OLED now in my living room is the best display I have seen for TV by a big margin. Amazing dynamic range, and wide gamut, but as some have stated, it needs to be tweaked to linearize luminance. As shipped blacks are unbelievably black...but so are dark greys...
It is not the brightest display I have had and I think it would be sub-optimal in a daylight brightly lit room. I only watch TV at night after a day's work, so that is not a limitation here. 18 months in there is absolutely no burn-in, but obviously that is because I use it for it's intended use: TV, not as a computer monitor or kiosk display. Here is a decent test of OLED burn-in: YouTube
When watching programs in 4K or especially programming in HDR like GT, it is like a picture window...amazing...actors have never looked so bad! I think they must be using a lot more makeup in shows filmed at 4K...recently I have been (mis)treated to the show Outlander with my wife and it looks amazing...if you can stand the dialog.
Cheers!
Howie
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The TV arrived. Wife a bit shocked at the size but I think she's over it now. (There's a dirty joke lurking in their somewhere, but lets just leave it at that 😀 )
Interestingly, during the OSSU, there was a selection for 'In Store Demo' so I presume this was some hyper saturated ultra high HD thing. I got suckered by that at BIC camera in Tokyo about 14 yrs ago and bought a Sharp.
Interestingly, during the OSSU, there was a selection for 'In Store Demo' so I presume this was some hyper saturated ultra high HD thing. I got suckered by that at BIC camera in Tokyo about 14 yrs ago and bought a Sharp.
Yup, 4K has put some actors out of business. No make up was going to save them.
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I had a high-end Pioneer plasma and thought it was great, but I will state the LG OLED now in my living room is the best display I have seen for TV by a big margin. Amazing dynamic range, and wide gamut, but as some have stated, it needs to be tweaked to linearize luminance. As shipped blacks are unbelievably black...but so are dark greys...
It is not the brightest display I have had and I think it would be sub-optimal in a daylight brightly lit room. I only watch TV at night after a day's work, so that is not a limitation here. 18 months in there is absolutely no burn-in, but obviously that is because I use it for it's intended use: TV, not as a computer monitor or kiosk display. Here is a decent test of OLED burn-in: YouTube
When watching programs in 4K or especially programming in HDR like GT, it is like a picture window...amazing...actors have never looked so bad! I think they must be using a lot more makeup in shows filmed at 4K...recently I have been (mis)treated to the show Outlander with my wife and it looks amazing...if you can stand the dialog.
Cheers!
Howie
I've used a plasma tv as a pc monitor for years. Using a big screen as a monitor isn't a bad idea. You have to use lower resolution like 720p to see everything from a distance. So as long as the OS supports lower resolution its an option.
I did burn the screen slightly at one point. I simply brought up the burn image screen and inverted the colors and disabled screen saver and left it for an couple hours. Got rid of the burned image. Its necessary to have a clean desktop and low contrast wallpaper.
Even with the burn issues I still prefer the picture. It doesn't have that kaleidoscope effect that I get with lcd. Might do an oled at some point. Really depends on what someone wants. A subtle picture with proper blacks or the bright pop of LCD. Maybe a bit like soft cones vs hard cones.
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HDTV, sporting event cheerleaders, higher resolution of very skimpy costumes revealing issues that had not been noted before! Visible on in house video displays details that perhaps did not broadcast as highly detailed.
Amazing that in a line up of cheerleaders individual hairs became clear. Lots of old footage had to be abandoned!
Amazing that in a line up of cheerleaders individual hairs became clear. Lots of old footage had to be abandoned!
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HDTV, sporting event cheerleaders, higher resolution of very skimpy costumes revealing issues that had not been noted before! Visible on in house video displays details that perhaps did not broadcast as highly detailed.
Amazing that in a line up of cheerleaders individual hairs became clear. Lots of old footage had to be abandoned!
I would think you were over this, in the 60's my friends would want to get ground level tickets and wait for costume failures.
I would think you were over this, in the 60's my friends would want to get ground level tickets and wait for costume failures.
Interesting how you read things but with friends like those....
The technical issue was simply that higher resolution can be both good and bad. Do you really want to see the warts?
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