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Human being is a selfisch social animal. Do you hear so much about banks and markett places, stock exchange to be freezed for some weeks ? Nah....

At Borneo, one of the primary forest, they swapped 60% of the jungle for palm oil and tasty junk food industry....the gentle children that parents don't want to educate might need chocolate paste full of palm oil to developp their fragile brain.

Breaking news, Orang Outans forgive us and help YouTube

I am tended to write Nature for a new Evolution Law ... Air is frescher near the soil, than the last floor of towers....

I really applaud all the medical staffs to help us poor humans as all the workers that sweeps for fool selfisch people calling 911 all over the world and elites with an eye on the stock exchange rate and the other on the WHO map progression. People still asking qbout their travel to put their a.s on the sand.

I eventually have to go to the drug stores to buy medics for my 83 mother diabetes and blood pressure she can not stop. Brother are not all heros, mine is thinking more to his business which he could freeze as it's not vital as food or vital goods but services.

So you see, it's really not about a country over another...and I'm not talking about politic or populism...just to highlight the selfisch behavior of Man Kind. A perfect illustration is the same chinese guy I won't name by respect to his mother say in China covid is a plot from outside while helping Italy ... Eventually they should show the good behavior as they rules for people... Do they ? No they show with o s finger the neignhbours to targett their election again... thinking intelligence is about to fool others. Disgusting....
 
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And that's fine, for the basis of calculating registered infections. Not arguing against it at all, but you're disputing the unregistered cases. Not the same.

I'd misunderstood what you were trying to say. I'm sorry about that.

Lets look at the numbers again...
Ok, so a claim is made that there are 100,000 people infected in this state.
1 week ago there would have been 50,000 infections
2 weeks ago 25,000
3 weeks ago 12,500 COVID-19 infections.

It takes on average 3 weeks from infection to death. With 12,500 infections we should expect about:
at 1% = 125 deaths
at 2% = 250 deaths
at 3.4% = 425 deaths (this is the rate the WHO claims)

Of course a 3 week average means at the 3 week point about half will have died and the other half are still dying so we can cut those number in half...but still we're just not seeing those large numbers yet.
So I remain skeptical...
 
Ok, so a claim is made that there are 100,000 people infected in this state.
1 week ago there would have been 50,000 infections
2 weeks ago 25,000
3 weeks ago 12,500 COVID-19 infections.

France has published that doubling of cases happens every 3 days.

Also steroids and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like aspirin, ibuprofen or diclofenac increase the risk of complications.

Paracetamol (Tylenol) is ok to take.

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This is another good source of information on YT:

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Big part 2/3 of social & economical interactions are frozen in France.
One week is not a pain but what happen if this protection against virus take longer time for example 2 or 3 month's?

Is UNO not made also for such situations ? Big reunion with countries executives to organise worldwide, lockdown mortgages, war, use ressources to help people?
It's not also the Midle-Age plagues in Europe, there will be not millions of death, certainly numbers will be near every year flu...a bit more of course. What is amazing me is all the scientists say to shorten the crisis, freeze all for few weeks.... an people everywhere in France, Netherlands in the coffeshop, Belgiums going to France because they lock down 1 day before, Germans, spanisch... all went massivly in the bars and restaurant as if it could be stocked like the sun for D vitamine. Is there a bar vitamine sort of ? No just unduty people whom never known what a war is...

I surmise your president will anounce a bigger lock down and advise to watch War Z movie as a survival kit and the Walking Dead to learn zombie speaking... Johnson replicating, good idea, look at the Vikings... they lost 1 week cause elections, same has happend in US. Those guys don't live in the same world than you and me.... they think they have a imunity card... a double one, no responsability and no virus?
Came back from the drugs stores for medics...I had to told a young guy that sticked me as if I was Marylin Monroe clone to breath few feets from me as I was from the pregnant woman in front of me... Do you beleive it?
 
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..It's not also the Midle-Age plagues in Europe,..Came back from the drugs stores for medics...
I had to told a young guy that sticked me as if I was Marylin Monroe clone to breath few feets from me
as I was from the pregnant woman in front of me...
Do you beleive it?

Looks like go to the pharmacy or the food store in France is risky without mask and glowes protection.
Medicine viral specialist in France says Covid-19
is 10 to 15 x times more quick to contamine ,
all without remedy today.
Virus mutations is possible
 
Is UNO not made also for such situations ? Big reunion with countries executives to organise worldwide, lockdown mortgages, war, use ressources to help people?
It's not also the Midle-Age plagues in Europe, there will be not millions of death, certainly numbers will be near every year flu...a bit more of course. What is amazing me is all the scientists say to shorten the crisis, freeze all for few weeks.... an people everywhere in France, Netherlands in the coffeshop, Belgiums going to France because they lock down 1 day before, Germans, spanisch... all went massivly in the bars and restaurant as if it could be stocked like the sun for D vitamine. Is there a bar vitamine sort of ? No just unduty people whom never known what a war is...

Just to be sure, plenty of modeled outcomes predict *just* this occurring. 50-70% global infection rate with a nominal 1% fatality (not to mention the much larger number of people hospitalized who may need months/never truly recover) is .5%-.7% of the global population. That's ~7.5 billion *0.005 = 37.5 million.

We can hope and pray that the folks working the front lines, medical professionals and researchers alike can pin down better practices with what we have, and get us towards a vaccine by early/mid 2021 (12+ months, not going to happen faster). We don't really know if summertime in the northern hemisphere will bring relief like it does from influenza (this also means it will peak down in the southern hemisphere), but there's evidence to that idea given SE Asia and southern parts of China have been relatively unaffected. Everything is so rapidly changing.

We all have to do our part and mitigate/slow spread, but we also have to be honest that this will hit us globally to our core: we as a population are so ripe for something like this.
 
I really dunno, that's why I linked the guardian link about a Harvard epidemiologist professor ! Very clear talking...


I'm try to get info about the waited bounce effect of european autunm which is typically november where flu beginns to show its nose (no pune intented) : that's what borring me also...
 
HK, Spore, Taiwan : very duty people there, Spore is a model in the way they manage it as far I understand...

Europe.. introduce a variable in the formula... could be slower thatn these 3 places. You can see everywhere turists yet!
 
I really dunno, that's why I linked the guardian link about a Harvard epidemiologist professor ! Very clear talking...


I'm try to get info about the waited bounce effect of european autunm which is typically november where flu beginns to show its nose (no pune intented) : that's what borring me also...

I apologize I missed your prior link, things are moving pretty fast in this thread.

At this point, any idea of how this will continue to progress seasonally and what (if any) climes it prefers is speculation. It looks like well founded speculation, but we are living the experiment right now, sadly.
 
I apologize I missed your prior link, things are moving pretty fast in this thread.

At this point, any idea of how this will continue to progress seasonally and what (if any) climes it prefers is speculation. It looks like well founded speculation, but we are living the experiment right now, sadly.


I relink for you or others I’m an epidemiologist. When I heard about Britain’s ‘herd immunity’ coronavirus plan, I thought it was satire | William Hanage | Opinion | The Guardian


So Johnson (not the cleaning products) is going back from the first advice he had from the Imperial college guy because some serious scientist explained whet you can see fro this serious one in the Guardian's ! Several days lost... Some eventually said he invented again the Russian Roulette but with 8 bullets instead...
 
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And now we have a brand new face to "Hoarding & Panic buying".
Just confirmed in one of our news media, that some anonymous german government officials have leaked, that DT has attempted to buy a german bio-development company, that seems to be on their way with a vaccine. The offer is 1 mill. UD$. Only condition is, that this vaccine shall be made for americans only... WTF???
 
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