When the numbers are trailing this bad, and testing are deliberately being held back.
I'd say that in this case we can just throw all statistics out the window.
I'd say that in this case we can just throw all statistics out the window.
Just want to say: don't assume that all Western countries will have a better response than China, and if the numbers indicate that, that it just means they're lies. For one, China has a huge advantage because of BOTH their autocratic rule AND cultural values around collective good. Second, the WHO numbers about China (at least in the published reports) are investigated, not simply passed on.
We are actively hindering ourselves as we're used to this "freedom of choice" thing.
First thing that happened after the quarantine restrictions, people all did the crowd-hoard thing, and a lot of those that have one went to their cabins. Directly opposing government advice. Several have tried contacting the red cross to get help to go home because they're sick now...
I had my dog trimmed today. While I was there in the check out line a woman had what I estimated to be a 6 month supply of dogfood for a 40Lb dog plus cat food for for 6 months for a 12Lb cat.
I mean, really, You can feed your pet with human food if you must. We have been doing it for thousands of years.
I mean, really, You can feed your pet with human food if you must. We have been doing it for thousands of years.
I don't think that's crazier than hoarding perishables. I went to Walmart at 9:45PM to avoid the crowds. MILK was all gone. We are happy when milk lasts 3 weeks. Is there some trick to preserve milk I never learned?
And when it's "gone dry" you can make gulai kambing, very tasty. Common in Indonesia.
There is an ultra-pasturized milk with very long shelf life. We keep a jug in the house just in case the store backs up with milk that expired last week, or the chance that we and the supply chain might shut-down for a while.
Nevermind feeding the dogs people-food. If all the truckdrivers are on ventilators WE may be eating the DOG food. We have 50+ pounds in house. It is hard on people-kidneys but what isn't? A few minutes with well-water so it goes over our poor teeth.
When we lived in Spain in the early 60s, we would shop at Torrejone and my mom would stock up and freeze milk. We went shopping once a month.
So does anyone know about the symptoms?? if anyone in the know give me your opinion. I will not take literally before seeing doc. On Thursday started having bad headache all day. Aspirin did not get rid of it. Also was a slight sore throat and dry cough. Very mild nausea. No fever at all. Now Sunday almost all of that is gone. Whats up.
It's not necessarily rational thinking behind the hoarding (obviously). Second, this is a marathon, not a sprint. Economically, I worry about the huge swaths of the population where their business is GONE as it's heavy on human contact. On average those folks tend not to get paid too well either, so I'm sure reserves on average are insufficient to weather a several month complete dry spell.
Ugh, this is going to be rough.
Ugh, this is going to be rough.
Symptoms | CDC
If you look at the list, they give the major respiratory failure symptoms. That's for severe cases. Colds and flu tend to be more rapid onset, but have a very similar list of symptoms to COVID-19 (especially mild cases), which adds to the confusion and difficulty in mitigating transmission. Then you get the fact that one becomes infectious earlier in the incubation period than one becomes materially symptomatic making inadvertent infection a major problem, and also why lockdown is so important.
As to family-family infection is the greatest transmission vector, time and proximity are the obvious reasons, and is the case across the board. It's the hopping from nuclear unit to nuclear unit that these forms of isolation are here to heavily mitigate.
Posted here recently but I don't have the cite handy:
I think you got some other "virus/cold/flu". They are still going around. At best/worst Corona is morphing into a less aggressive form and you got that.
The fever is widely reported. My feeling is that if you ain't hot, and it does not go to lung-congestion, stay on the couch. Don't even bother the docs yet.
PRR -- It may be easier for trained professionals to tell the difference between COVID-19 and flu/colds, but on an individual basis, very difficult. That said, your list is better than the one I linked to, thanks for that.
Yes, it will be rough. The big controversy here is whether to send kids to school. My older daughter goes to an "enhanced" public school program, they make a big deal about missing school. Enough parents just ignored their enforcing their standard policy (one class went all the way down to 7 students) that they finally capitulated and now support parents who want to keep their kids home. A lot of school boards around the country are toying around with enlarging the spring break. Our province finally admitted that if the policy changes to close the schools, closing up for the duration of the school year is the only realistic scenario. There is a definite weaning of bad news to the public.
We've closed school, here in Ontario, till April 5th. I can't imagine they'll start up again in April, it'll only be worse then.
Teachers are still getting paid 100%, supply teachers are not 0%.
Oh well, at least I qualify for unemployment...
(I notice some are talking about eating dog food...
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Teachers are still getting paid 100%, supply teachers are not 0%.
Oh well, at least I qualify for unemployment...
(I notice some are talking about eating dog food...
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