Are youngers being more stupid?

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AMD and Intel are two manufacturers out of many many others.

That laptop is more than enough for this use case. I have more computers, but this will be entirely dedicated as an interface for this oscilloscope.

The DSO6074BC will not work.

The 'drama' component of me, tells me these are wasted keystrokes.

Again, the 'drama' component tells me these are more wasted keystrokes.

I will not waste more of my time trying the impossible. The driver for the DSO6074BC has not yet been cracked and reverse engineered.

I will use good old Windows 7 which boots in less than two minutes. All networking hardware has been disabled. Updates cannot take place and it does not make sense to enable them on an un-networked machine.

You wasted more keystrokes than I did :) Just saying :D If you really thought it was just drama and a waste of keystrokes, you wouldn't have taken the time to address it in this manner.

Less than two minutes?!?!?! Less than 15 seconds is more realistic with a modern computer man. If you haven't yet replaced the HDD with an SSD, it will be the single best upgrade you've ever done in your life.

FYI I have the Hantek 6022 which indeed does work with openhantek.
 
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My favourite UK & Eire word, however, is:

Yoke.

Put dat yoke over dare will ya?

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I've installed Linux on hundreds of PCs over the years (laptops, netbooks, workstations, servers) and never had any issues with drivers. What I meant was, when I buy a specialized peripheral device I do a quick google to make sure there aren't any significant outstanding issues getting it to work in Linux. It is not nearly as difficult as you are making it sound to run Linux on just about any PC.




WINE works perfectly well to run software in many, many cases. I never said it is perfect. Linux has its own quality drivers for the vast majority of hardware out there (see my point about installing it on just about anything).


I have used all the virtualization platforms from commercial products on enterprise servers to open source platforms on home PCs. I understand how they work, and they are far more efficient than you have described. I find Virtualbox perfectly suitable for running Windows VM for home use. On my hardware, I can tell no difference between the VM and Windows installed natively.




I'm unethical, am I? Hilarious.

I am encouraging people to give Linux a try because in my (substantial) experience it offers a more stable, more secure, less invasive, and overall better experience than Windows. There is no reason to not give it a try.

"Unethical" - you have a flair for drama, I see. The biggest limitations associated with Linux are due to the person at the keyboard.


I have a cousin with a degree in computing who has relented her use of Ubuntu, and reverted to Win 10.
 
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I have a cousin with a degree in computing who has relented her use of Ubuntu, and reverted to Win 10.

A testament to the failure of modern education, perhaps?

Oh look. We've come full circle.

I work with and know many experts in computers and related fields (networking, IT security, programming, etc. etc.) as I have worked in the Data Center and telecom industries my entire career. Linux (and Unix variants such as FreeBSD) are used and preferred by an overwhelming majority of them. I'd say at least 95% of them. I also would (as respectfully as possible) say that your cousin has perhaps chosen the wrong career path if Ubuntu is too challenging for her. My children learned to use Ubuntu as soon as they could work a mouse and keyboard, which was before they attended school. At 17 and 18 years now, they are still using it with zero complaints or problems.

This was a selfish choice on my part, to be honest. I wanted to minimize demands for computer support in the home, and I knew Linux would "just work" - year after year after year.

I should also note that I am personally responsible (at work) for the direct monitoring, administration and maintenance of ~1430 network devices. ~30 of them run Windows and ~1400 of them run an embedded version of Linux. The 30 Windows devices cause over 98% of the issues that occur. So I should be thankful to Windows for my job security, I suppose.
 
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I still think my preference for a distro is Xubuntu. I really couldn't get used to the whole Unity thing. Linux Mint is a close follow up.

I've pretty much gotten my install of Windows 10 tamed to the point of being tolerable. Still, I'm waiting for the right opportunity to jump ship.

I really have never been a dual-boot guy. I did it for a year or so, but found that one OS or the other never got used. At present, there is so much software that gets used for my engineering courses that it would be tricky to use anything besides Windows. Mac OS would probably be no better than Linux in this regard.

I also have a fair bit of hardware I play with that is old enough to barely work on Windows 10. I don't even want to try dealing with Linux for it. Unfortunately, right now if I were to use Linux as my primary OS I would be running almost all of my software through WINE or in a Windows VM. I really hope that can change at some point, as I would love to be freed from Microsoft's death grip.
 
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I still think my preference for a distro is Xubuntu. I really couldn't get used to the whole Unity thing. Linux Mint is a close follow up.

Unity was one of the biggest flops in Linux history. What a disaster.

I really have never been a dual-boot guy. I did it for a year or so, but found that one OS or the other never got used. At present, there is so much software that gets used for my engineering courses that it would be tricky to use anything besides Windows. Mac OS would probably be no better than Linux in this regard.

I know what you mean about dual booting. VMs are far more convenient and work just as well for most use cases.

I also have a fair bit of hardware I play with that is old enough to barely work on Windows 10. I don't even want to try dealing with Linux for it. Unfortunately, right now if I were to use Linux as my primary OS I would be running almost all of my software through WINE or in a Windows VM. I really hope that can change at some point, as I would love to be freed from Microsoft's death grip.

You might be surprised how well a current Linux kernel can handle all that old hardware. I'm not saying it will for sure, but I bet most if it would work. However, I agree that if most of the software you need for your engineering courses are designed to run in Windows, then having a PC dedicated to running Windows is the most practical choice.
 
You might be surprised how well a current Linux kernel can handle all that old hardware. I'm not saying it will for sure, but I bet most if it would work. However, I agree that if most of the software you need for your engineering courses are designed to run in Windows, then having a PC dedicated to running Windows is the most practical choice.

In some cases it's the software associated with that old hardware that is the problem. You may be right, and I have had surprisingly good luck in the past. If I can get a few specific pieces of hardware/software to behave on Linux, then I'll probably use that for my lab/bench PC for reliability reasons.
 
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I should also note that I am personally responsible (at work) for the direct monitoring, administration and maintenance of ~1430 network devices. ~30 of them run Windows and ~1400 of them run an embedded version of Linux. The 30 Windows devices cause over 98% of the issues that occur. So I should be thankful to Windows for my job security, I suppose. "


That is entirely consistent with my distaste for Windows 10.
I now have an IMac alongside.
 
I have a cousin with a degree in computing who has relented her use of Ubuntu, and reverted to Win 10.

I would not touch Ubuntu "vanilla flavor" for anything in the world, there's some adapted versions that can work well enough. I turned my late father towards Mint, and he really liked it, "best thing since sliced bread" and stuff like that, but not my cup of tea. Absolutely fantastic if you just want to get around the web, emails and office work, basic use.

Better to get some Debian fork IMO. Says the hypocrite using win10...
I've tried a few Debian versions that work really well, but I don't like OS's that makes you re-compile the kernel to solve relatively minor compatibilty issues. Not that I can't do it, just messin' with my mojo. I want to get stuff done, have other areas where I need to find and solve faults/errors.


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FYI I just had an apprentice come into my office, asking some questions about alloys and resistance. Complete nonsense. He said that the teachers in school taught him that Aluminium was a better conductor, lower resistance compared to copper? I had to tell him that's complete bollocks, utter nonsense, silver is a better conductor than copper. Drew up charts and the lot explained it to him in detail. The only thing that makes Aluminium better than copper is the lower cost.
No wonder we think kids are stupid these days, there seems to be some fault with the schools quality control! :D
 
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I approve. Not that you should care, but I do.

You likely already know that Mac OS X has Darwin running under the hood, which is based heavily on BSD Unix. So, thumbs up to that.

I just don't like paying the premium for Macs, otherwise I'd likely own a few.

You don't know just how lacking I am in knowledge about computing, and I feel apathetic towards it, largely because from my limited experience it is such a flaky and flawed entity.

I want a tool to just do what is required of it, this allowing focus on the task in hand, rather then having a tool which is 'temperamental' and always imposing itself into my consciousness, thus taking away my direction of energy from the work in progress.

Imagine how you would feel if you had to re-grind your screwdriver after every use, or change your engine oil after every 100 miles.
 
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I should also note that I am personally responsible (at work) for the direct monitoring, administration and maintenance of ~1430 network devices. ~30 of them run Windows and ~1400 of them run an embedded version of Linux. The 30 Windows devices cause over 98% of the issues that occur. So I should be thankful to Windows for my job security, I suppose. "


That is entirely consistent with my distaste for Windows 10.
I now have an IMac alongside.

Ah, but which of the devices see direct interaction with humans?

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