Here a piece I wrote about 2 or 3 years ago on two recordings (both vinyl, but it would equally apply to CD/streaming)
Tale of Two Recordings
Tale of Two Recordings
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Thank you for this nice story.
I happen to have this Ella Lp plus many other excellent sounding Lp’s from Ella&Louis, Chet Baker, Cleo Lane etc etc.
They are indeed pieces of art.
Compare this with an Amy Winehouse Lp and you won’t believe your own ears, so bad as it sounds.
Hans
It seems to go in both directions!
It’s meaningful to me....
Even though I might be the lounge idiot when it comes down to the technical aspects of your EE society there is one thing I wouldn’t trade for all the degrees that hang on the lounge walls......that I can hear/sense these differences argued to death here.
Why do I care?
I never knew this 5% was a thing until joining this forum,......always knew I had a better handle on interpreting sound reproduction than most, and even at a young age gravitated towards professionals in radio and recording studios to learn more, basically have had the question in the back of my mind my entire life.....why?
Well it seems to me as a member of this ‘5%’ it’s my duty to support the fwd motion and help get the answers.
I’m thinking there’s no reason to spend money on research because any further reach is just repressed by respected authorities as ‘what we have now is good enough’ (for 95%).
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No doubt. Perception of better still means nothing to anyone but yourself, same with Mark, it doesn't matter whether superior hearing ability is involved or not, so it also doesn't matter that he can't show any evidence. The same as a blip on a scan showing increased activity in the brain due to ultrasonics doesn't mean anything. When there is some correlation between perception and measurements then there is some meaning to others, until then there is none, is there?
You sure people will accept measurements that they don't like as being valid?
Do you think everyone here is convinced that you and PMA actually heard phase shift from a 100kHz preamp roll off?
PMA said it would never be accepted. I might borrow your words and say it is merely a blip, meaningless.
Are you saying Mark isn't properly investigating it?
He keeps repeating what Earl said about it costing too much, I wonder why? Still, if he keeps repeating that and that he hears such-and-such as better that's cheap and more and more people will believe it. Job done.Says he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Suggests the number might be more than 5%.
Why don't I tell you then, because he is likely to be seen as a neutral voice and as has having some authority to estimate a number.
Measurements without context are invalid (that is, not to be trusted). Valid measurements need to pass the criteria of reproducibility, meaning equipment, setup, counter measures against the common pitfalls, error analysis (if applies), integrating in a larger factual context, need all to be disclosed. Showing a chart without any context (sometimes even without labels on the axes) is as BS as subjective listening comments.
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I don't buy it either way. Quite a bit is being done even on this forum, or haven't you noticed, perhaps you don't take it seriously because you don't believe the findings or the tests aren't vigorous enough? All I'm talking about is making statements about perception more meaningful for others, I'm not interested in absolute proof, that is absolute BS
Speakers are the big issue to my mind. Regards the electronics we generally accept that a flat FR is a priority, not such with speakers. For example, what is Scottmoose on about here? Fostex new NV Series?
Yes - I also bought 2 Amy Winehouse records. Terrible.
I liked some of her music but the recordings are abysmal. I think someone was trying to be ‘cool’. Nothing cool or retro about any of it.
Hey look, something shiny this way goes!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Amy Winehouse recordings are horrid.......I enjoy alot of her music but can’t stand to listen to it!
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I think it’s more the fact that there is a difference where there should be none........whether it’s subjectively better to an individual is kindly irrelevant. There is still that difference to address?
Sorry mods......I don’t know how to edit a quote into something already posted?
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