You gave an example of a 20kHz fundamental which is what I questioned, not that harmonics can go higher. Dog whistles are up there but can anyone hear one other that the hiss of breath?
As a matter of interest what free software can handle 192k recordings? I would be interested in looking at the leading edge to see what the rise time was.
As a matter of interest what free software can handle 192k recordings? I would be interested in looking at the leading edge to see what the rise time was.
Bill,
I can understand, from what has been implied about you, you are short, fat, stupid, ugly and deaf. So my congratulations on overcoming such disadvantages!
Apparently the only one worse off is JN or maybe RNM.
The upside is most folks have quit picking on J.C.!
So obviously keep up the good work.
Ed: But I still have all my own hair
It doesn't count when you keep it in a box!
All the best!
ES
I used those arbitrary numbers to show that amplitude modulation of an (arguably audible) frequency can create side bands that are absolutely out of audibility.
I do not have numbers on cymbal frequencies or envelope, so kept the discussion simple.
Edit: way back in this discussion, someone (IIRC PMA) said that a gated sine was a violation (it certainly is) and showed that it didn't take that long for the system to recover.
Why should a percussive instrument be treated differently?
As I said many moons ago, the reliance on frequency domain analysis only is tossing out temporal information. A neglected domain unfortunately.
Jn
Darn, exceeded my word count quota again..
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The windup...here's the pitch...
That's ok Ed, nobody takes you seriously....
You did see that coming, yes?
Jn
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OK. I remain confused but it's a losing battle with me as I'm stuck in the paradigm of trying to reproduce real instruments in an acoustic environment as being a key driver.
It shouldn't which is why I would be interested in analysing it.
I may have missed it, but what about the comment earlier that modern recording is done at a high sample rate and then downsampled or decimated to hit CD... So, the original sine is well oversampled, so not a fish..
How does that affect the sidebands / beats, in theory, in your view?Bill, presumably your hearing is normal or better for your age. Also, you are a smart guy with a good brain.
If there is any difference in hearing between you and someone else maybe it is in how your System 1 (from two system model of cognition) processes sound and presents it to conscious awareness. People do seem to vary in that respect, for example some having perfect pitch and some not. If someone is better at pitch discrimination so what? If better at some other similar type of listening discrimination so what again? Nothing to get pissed over, shouldn't be anyway.
Then downsampling and decimation will fishify it? No?
+1
I am younger than Pavel, yet I admit my hearing discrimination is not as good as his. No problem.
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Sorry, I’m not playing with you any silly semantic word games again, life is too short. You can take this message as an admission of wrong doing on my side, and you can now take a victory lap. You beat me with experience.
OK, you said there is no instrument with a higher fundamental that 5k. Fine. But how do you think a clarinet sounds without the 7the overtone (et al.)? Come on....
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