Hi,
I have pl-518 TT with rewired tonearm and it has 150hz hum and its increase with volume.
TT metal chassis and motor grounded at ground post.
Tried different phono preamps with no luck.
Using Empire 2000e/iii cart. If I replace it with grado cart this same hum fq gets louder.
Checked continuity with arm pins to rca, all checks out.
Any idea where to check next?
Thanks
Edit: measured fq with phone app.
I have pl-518 TT with rewired tonearm and it has 150hz hum and its increase with volume.
TT metal chassis and motor grounded at ground post.
Tried different phono preamps with no luck.
Using Empire 2000e/iii cart. If I replace it with grado cart this same hum fq gets louder.
Checked continuity with arm pins to rca, all checks out.
Any idea where to check next?
Thanks
Edit: measured fq with phone app.
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I know, that's why I'm asking for help 🙂
Dealed with 50hz or 120hz hum before, but never 150hz...
Dealed with 50hz or 120hz hum before, but never 150hz...
OK,then it is not motor coupling. Is there a traffo inside the TT (For example, to power the equalizer/preamp) or to power the motor control? Also, taking the capsule off the pick up, still sounds the hum?
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There is a trafo inside the tt powering the dc motor. That gave me an idea an I unplugged the power cord. Still the same hum.
Maybe I messed up while doing tonearm rewire job. Or maybe something wrong with the preamp stage next to the phono preamp stage. Ground related?
Maybe I messed up while doing tonearm rewire job. Or maybe something wrong with the preamp stage next to the phono preamp stage. Ground related?
Perhaps the preamp/eq is self oscillating. Try removing the cartridge, and eventually, touching the components with a screwdriver or the nude point of a pencil (Carbon/graphite) to add random capacitances to the circuit and see if the amp increases the sound or changes the pitch of the hum, or the like.
Where in the system is the volume control? After the phono preamp, or farther downstream, after a preamp?
150Hz is typically coming from a rectification process.
Jan
150Hz is typically coming from a rectification process.
Jan
No, why? 3rd of 50Hz? 5th at 250Hz, 7th at 350Hz? Surely you have seen that many times?
You can also see it at the primary side due to the 'cut off' top on the primary due to rectifier diodes opening up.
All just as predicted.
But mainly my point was that it is MUCH easier to troubleshoot if you have an idea WHERE the problem is. Try to 'box it in' as it were.
Jan
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That's right. Phono pre and ba3 is in the shielded box and using shielded rca cables for all inputs.
Created and listened 50-100-150hz from tone generator. Sine,square etc...
It's definitely 50hz triangle wave noise is my problem....
It's definitely 50hz triangle wave noise is my problem....
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TT not connected to mains.
Arm tube and arm base is grounded. All cart and headshell connections checked, all ok.
Removed headshell and cart; loud sinewave hum.
Connected headshell and cart; 50hz sawtooth hum (much quiter than 50hz sinewave hum) but it's really annoying at 11 o'clock volume position.
Tried different cart (at95 and grado); at95 hum is same as Empire. Grado has more hum than others(as usual)...
Isolated female rca sockets from tt chassis. No change.
Tried different interconnects. No change.
Tried other phono pre. No change.
Removed everything from mains (including kitchen stuff!), except power amp and pre amp. No change.
Installed emi-rf pcb to preamp main input. No change.
I believe there is a ground loop somewhere but I still couldn't find it.
Will try another amp with integrated phono............
Arm tube and arm base is grounded. All cart and headshell connections checked, all ok.
Removed headshell and cart; loud sinewave hum.
Connected headshell and cart; 50hz sawtooth hum (much quiter than 50hz sinewave hum) but it's really annoying at 11 o'clock volume position.
Tried different cart (at95 and grado); at95 hum is same as Empire. Grado has more hum than others(as usual)...
Isolated female rca sockets from tt chassis. No change.
Tried different interconnects. No change.
Tried other phono pre. No change.
Removed everything from mains (including kitchen stuff!), except power amp and pre amp. No change.
Installed emi-rf pcb to preamp main input. No change.
I believe there is a ground loop somewhere but I still couldn't find it.
Will try another amp with integrated phono............