John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part III

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Confession. I do too :)

I also have 1-20 of the Romantic Violin Concerto series. Just haven't gotten around to #21 yet. I have 5 of the 7 of Romantic Cello Concerto discs and none of the Classical Piano Series that just started.

Most of the recorded pieces are also not a part of the oversaturated classical music catalog in which the same pieces get recorded over and over and over.
 

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Somehow this is not making complete sense to me, how does this relate to someone in the next room listening through a doorway because now it's not physics.

I would have thought that you knew that optimum speaker placement and setup really only applies to when you sit in front of the speakers and listen only to the music and it's presentation.

If one is listening to music as just background sound while doing other things, one is not paying attention to the music and certainly not the presentation, it's just sound.
Um, well, being in a room and hearing music from a sound system thru an open doorway............

I suppose it's safe to say that I am not one for the "wife in the kitchen/garage" comments, which I think are just laughable.
 
I suppose it's safe to say that I am not one for the "wife in the kitchen/garage" comments, which I think are just laughable.
As always, the things are not white or black.
Listening with less attention, as an example from an other room, and realizing that your system is "artificial" happens. Because, when you are in front of-it, you can be caught or impressed by things that hide other defects.
 
Okay, like what?
Listening from "the kitchen", do-you believe (have the feeling) that somebody is singing/talking in your listening room, or that a record or a radio is playing ?
In summer, when the windows are open, I often listen to the TVs or radios played in houses from outside. You can identify a speaker 99% of the time. And it is independent from the size of the system.
Most of the times, "Hifi" systems are surreal. Too much treble, too much basses ....

T ,I agree with you that not paying direct attention to sound CAN be useful in surprising ways. I suspect it is related to 'right brain activity' that is often suppressed in most males.
Hence the expression "the wife in the kitchen" ? ;-)
 
As always, the things are not white or black.
Listening with less attention, as an example from an other room, and realizing that your system is "artificial" happens. Because, when you are in front of-it, you can be caught or impressed by things that hide other defects.
T ,I agree with you that not paying direct attention to sound CAN be useful in surprising ways. I suspect it is related to 'right brain activity' that is often suppressed in most males.
The listening chair can sound good because room/house modes are suppressed at that position.
Same as when doing live sound, at the mix console position the sound might be great/hi-fi, but a 'sound check walk' can be revealing of 'nasties' that are not evident at the acoustic/listening focal point because of masking of resonances and reflections by the direct sound.

Get away from the direct sound positions and the sound may remain good (good setup) or it may become bad/irritating etc (bad setup). I keep saying this, but the sound from the backyard, garage or kitchen tells you the overall real deal, sitting in the 'sweet' spot increases information resolution but may not be truly representative.

A system worth it's weight will sound good everywhere and merely gets better at the focal point in terms of Mid/HF level and imaging positioning.

So much ballyhoo about the primary step in good sound, it's clear that some here cannot grasp elementary concepts and merely wish to argue.

Dan.
 
It seems to me that this would be very recording dependant. Has the stereo image been produced by ITD or ILD or both? Running these tests could be of interest Stereo Perception, Sound Localization & Auditory Cues

It is hard to have a reference for any speaker set up process that uses music for the process. A perfectly centered voice, equal in each channel works well. A mono recording would work quite well too, although if there are too many instrumental and vocal sources it could get confusing. For something like doing speaker set up, the simpler the better.

The recommended recording for the procedure I use seems to work pretty well as a reference for establishing a centered music image. Myself, I then check things with a mono recording, as I have quite a few mono jazz discs of really good quality.
 
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For your wife, a little devotional music on Dum Dum India.


She's currently playing this a lot which we found on sound cloud. A Czech Tantric teacher and his German muse singing*. Waaaaay to much echo but they do a half decent job.



*I kid you not The team
 

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It is hard to have a reference for any speaker set up process that uses music for the process. A perfectly centered voice, equal in each channel works well.
And, whatever the type of stereo used (phase or levels) It works the same: The level and the phases are equal on both channels.
As near all R'n'R records have the voice of the singer centered, I prefer stereo recordings, that allow you to juge the separation of instruments in space on the other locations, between center and side: more they are punctual with space between them, better it is.
Horns seems to be lot better than cones on this matter, OMHO.
 
It is hard to have a reference for any speaker set up process that uses music for the process. A perfectly centered voice, equal in each channel works well. A mono recording would work quite well too, although if there are too many instrumental and vocal sources it could get confusing. For something like doing speaker set up, the simpler the better.

The recommended recording for the procedure I use seems to work pretty well as a reference for establishing a centered music image. Myself, I then check things with a mono recording, as I have quite a few mono jazz discs of really good quality.
And what about stereo? The images are spread between the speakers and it could be level and/or time that is used. Having one speaker closer to you than the other is going to distort the time difference cues
 
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