Aatto,
Very good that you have taken a decision, now we can continue with the design.
We can focus first at the CD –driver and add other options later.
AMT with horn like Beyma TPL-150H and some Mundorfs with horn are very interesting also, and the dome with waveguide of course.
From my side I will fully support all, if there is interest in.
Very good that you have taken a decision, now we can continue with the design.
We can focus first at the CD –driver and add other options later.
AMT with horn like Beyma TPL-150H and some Mundorfs with horn are very interesting also, and the dome with waveguide of course.
From my side I will fully support all, if there is interest in.
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Aatto,
Your patience and hard work is appreciated by all readers! Your reward will be the smile you get from listening to the well selected AES TD15X + TD8M + Faital HF107. A Lifetime speaker.
The July 2013 Voice Coil magazine has measurements of the HF107 on the STH100 horn.
Your patience and hard work is appreciated by all readers! Your reward will be the smile you get from listening to the well selected AES TD15X + TD8M + Faital HF107. A Lifetime speaker.
The July 2013 Voice Coil magazine has measurements of the HF107 on the STH100 horn.
Thank you LineSource, I ll be glad if I could be any help and also can't wait to hear the final product, this project certainly wouldn't be possible without other members help, support and dedication 🙂
I think this is the article you were talking about :
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/15_Mfrs_Publications/40_Voice_Coil/2013/2013_7_July.pdf
I think this is the article you were talking about :
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/15_Mfrs_Publications/40_Voice_Coil/2013/2013_7_July.pdf
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Aatto,
Very good that you have taken a decision, now we can continue with the design.
We can focus first at the CD –driver and add other options later.
AMT with horn like Beyma TPL-150H and some Mundorfs with horn are very interesting also, and the dome with waveguide of course.
From my side I will fully support all, if there is interest in.
Paul, I appreciate your support, I compared the HF10AK and HF107 datasheets, and as far as my knowledge goes both drivers share a lot of similarities, the diaphragm shape is dome vs annular tho, which I do not know the difference ( i mean sound quality wise ).
with STH100 in mind we can finalize the test cabinet 🙂
I am totally not experienced in this. At first sight and if I understand it well, the annular tweeter is a super tweeter that has an improved high frequency response.I compared the HF10AK and HF107 datasheets, and as far as my knowledge goes both drivers share a lot of similarities, the diaphragm shape is dome vs annular tho, which I do not know the difference ( i mean sound quality wise ).
Here you find the patent of such super tweeter, US20050238197A1 - Super tweeter
- Google Patents.
Maybe others know more about this...
still couldn't find other retailer than that 😉

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26 mm tweeter with high quality cone.
power handling (continuous/programme) = 60/150 W
frequency range = 1800-22000 Hz
resonance frequency fs = 900 Hz
impedance R = 6 Ohm
sound pressure level SPL = 92 dB (2,83V; 1m)
DC resistance Re = 4,8 Ohm
force factor BL = 3,8 N/A
voice coil inductance L = 0,05 mH
effective piston radiating area Sd = 7,6 cm2
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mounting diameter d = 75 mm
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I am totally not experienced in this. At first sight and if I understand it well, the annular tweeter is a super tweeter that has an improved high frequency response.
Here you find the patent of such super tweeter, US20050238197A1 - Super tweeter
- Google Patents.
Maybe others know more about this...
thanks Paul, it makes sense.
however, looking at the FR curve of the HF10AK, seems like it has more relaxed extended range above 20k, comapred to HF107 that start to fall off, which is not a biggie at all.
I would like to see if anyone esle has any comments about HF10AK vs HF107 before I order 🙂
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Thanks merlin,
I meant that looks like 27TF1 is also no longer in production. we are going with CD option for now anyways.
however, looking at the FR curve of the HF10AK, seems like it has more relaxed extended range above 20k, comapred to HF107 that start to fall off, which is not a biggie at all.
Remark that the resonance frequency of the HF10AK is lower and also the frequency range is 0.8 - 20 kHz and 1.3 - 20 kHz for the HF107. Recommended crossover freaquency is the same at 1.3 kHz.
Indeed, it should be interesting if someone could tell more about the sound quality.
Edit: Looking to the SPL around 10 kHz of both, the HF107 is more difficult tp equalize with a passive filter I expect.
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Have you considered cutting the top cabinet edges above the woofer with a 1.5" radius quarter round router bit? You could also round the edges below the 15" woofer to maintain this style-point. On an 18" wide cabinet the STH100 and TD8M are small enough to allow this round-over. Earl Geddes SUMMA horn tweeter speaker cabinets all have large radius edge quarter rounds.
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I just went ahead and order HF107 and STH100 😉
Good news, crossing fingers here
Have you considered cutting the top cabinet edges above the woofer with a 1.5" radius quarter round router bit? You could also round the edges below the 15" woofer to maintain this style-point. On an 18" wide cabinet the STH100 and TD8M are small enough to allow this round-over. Earl Geddes SUMMA horn tweeter speaker cabinets all have large radius edge quarter rounds.
That's a great idea, the bits certainly aren't inexpensive, but that size of round-over should make a noticeable improvement in diffraction mitigation.
Cheers,
Gable
How easy it is to do on kitchen table? That kind of bit needs some monster router.
You should be able to use a standard ~2.25hp/12a router. You would want to do so incrementally, ie: slowly work down to the full ~1.5" round-over, in multiple passes. You will be taking off only small amounts of material with each pass, which puts less load on the router, and makes it much safer/easier to handle.
I've made the mistake of trying to use a large round-over bit in one pass. It bites into the material, makes a mess and tries to jerk itself out of your hands.
No fun, dangerous and typically makes a mess of your material. 😀
Cheers,
Gable
Good news!I just went ahead and order HF107 and STH100 😉
Is there a specific interesting to know reason that you did choose for HF107 instead of HF10AK?
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