Global Warming/Climate Change hoax

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Earl Grey

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Cook is an academic working in climate science communication at a respected school, has written textbooks in conjunction with climate scientists, and has researched and published on the nature of the scientific consensus around climate change in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.


Stefan Molyneaux is a MRA and alt-right Youtuber. The only publication of his I'm aware of is a (famously poorly argued) book on ethics.


I'll let others judge which would, prima facie, be considered the more reasonable source on climate change.
 
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leadbelly said:
Actually, to even defend John Cook is to fall for the ad hominem logical fallacy Evenharmonics is using. John Cook is just the founder, he writes a fraction of the material on the website. The authors of each entry are identified and all material is properly cited.
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I agree with the last couple of sentences. But ultimately no one has time to fully investigate every issue from first principles. Being able to evaluate e.g. why Stefan Molyneaux is a poor source on climate change is an important critical thinking skill.

You don’t have to fully accept argument from authority (or ad hominem) to accept some level of critical evaluation of sources.
 
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It doesn’t matter if the scientists are right, or if they are wrong, or don’t know because humans have always needed an actual disaster or a clear financial opportunity before they will change. Change is difficult, it creates winners and losers, it is risky. And those with the power to affect change won’t do so against what they perceive as their own interests. It’s the classic Problem (or Tragedy) of The Commons.
 
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Bigun said:
It doesn’t matter if the scientists are right, or if they are wrong, or don’t know because humans have always needed an actual disaster or a clear financial opportunity before they will change. Change is difficult, it creates winners and losers, it is risky. And those with the power to affect change won’t do so against what they perceive as their own interests. It’s the classic Problem (or Tragedy) of The Commons.
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See how the last financial disaster has caused things to change!! :(

And... YouTube
 
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if the climate science is wrong and we switch to sustainable, clean energy, whats the harm? If the skeptics are wrong, our children are screwed. BTW, they're not wrong, not even close. If they are, they err on the side of caution. This is science, how it became political discourse is what will be the ruin of humanity.
 
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Evenharmonics said:
Speaking of the credential, I'll relink what I posted on post #282.
Here is a video by a meteorologist.
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The first weatherman on Good Morning America AND broadcast meteorologist of the year!?!?!!

Such a shame, one of the greatest minds in a generation wasting his time debunking the climate change hoax. The opportunity cost is nearly impossible to calculate. Imagine the benefit to future generations if he were able to concentrate on really important things like proving NASA faked the moon landings.
 
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Evenharmonics

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martyh said:
Such a shame, one of the greatest minds in a generation wasting his time debunking the climate change hoax.
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The opportunity cost is nearly impossible to calculate. Imagine the benefit to future generations if he were able to concentrate on really important things like proving NASA faked the moon landings.
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NASA fakes things? They must've been infiltrated by the "movement". :eek:
 
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