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Each item of vintage equipment that I own (be it amplifier, receiver, tuner, turntable, tape deck or CD player) has a captive mains lead (power cord).

Shall I cut their mains leads short in order to employ more esoteric power cords via an in-line adaptor?

NO CHANCE! ;)
 

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I haven’t found anything in the literature implied or explicit that SiO2 is ferroelectric.

We need a Materials Scientist to inform us.

George

I play one on television, on occasion. ;) This would be HUGE news to me and do all kinds of horrible things to semiconductor devices.

This is the closest I get, which is 4% SiO2 in HfO2.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.3634052

There's a few papers that encapsulate Barium Titanate or other Lanthanide oxides in a SiO2 sandwich, but nothing directly on SiO2 being ferroelectric. Definitely not something we talked about ever. (And, yes, Kittel was my textbook for Solid State Physics although I can feel the disappointment in my retention of the material from that professor from here. :D)

P.S. Am I the only one who feels like we're being utterly trolled right now by a certain member?
 
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Of course. I was about to suggest the Mr. Rick Miller such raisers, since it appears he's not using any in his current mid-fi sounding system http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/the-...t-ac-power-cable-opinions-13.html#post5529540

But I would not recommend anything but myrtle wood blocks; Cardas is selling them for a reasonable price CARDAS - MYRTLEWOOD BLOCKS | Shop Music Direct

But careful, some reported that there are significant block to block differences in sound. You need to carefully inspect the blocks for any visual differences, apparently these correlate well with the SQ improvement: Question for Myrtle wood block users. | Stereophile.com You also have to be careful to orient the blocks as much as possible parallel with the Earth magnetic axis, otherwise the blocks noise reduction properties will be greatly degraded.
 
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It is well known that if you want to sell something at a high price to certain audiophiles it helps if you use a relatively unknown (to them) technology even if the conventional technology would do a better job at a cheaper price.

I can see no technical benefit in dissipating unwanted signals in ferroelectrics (assuming the device works as claimed) when you could use ferromagnetics instead and get a much wider bandwidth of attenuation.

Many people have found thru listening, that Ferromagnetic material like ferrite clamps and rings sound bad. They affect the sound in a bad way. I believe it says this in the patent. Forum member Charles Hansen (RIP) talked about how ferrite should be kept away from audio equipment. But Ferroelectric material does not have this problem, that is one of the reasons Shunyata uses it.
 
Of course. I was about to suggest the Mr. Rick Miller such raisers, since it appears he's not using any in his current mid-fi sounding system http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/the-...t-ac-power-cable-opinions-13.html#post5529540

But I would not recommend anything but myrtle wood blocks; Cardas is selling them for a reasonable price CARDAS - MYRTLEWOOD BLOCKS | Shop Music Direct

But careful, some reported that there are significant block to block differences in sound. You need to carefully inspect the blocks for any visual differences, apparently these correlate well with the SQ improvement: Question for Myrtle wood block users. | Stereophile.com You also have to be careful to orient the blocks as much as possible parallel with the Earth magnetic axis, otherwise the blocks noise reduction properties will be greatly degraded.

The system in the pictures in not mine. All my personal cables are up in the air. Charles Hansen (RIP) loved myrtle wood blocks! And you would too!
 
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Hi Rick,
I think things are being overblown here. Over the course of 40 + years I have listened to many things said to improve sound quality. Most didn't affect it either way. Things that did affect the sound quality turned out to be measurable and made sense. It just took 40 years to have equipment sensitive enough to show what changes occurred.

-Chris
 
Hi Rick,
I think things are being overblown here. Over the course of 40 + years I have listened to many things said to improve sound quality. Most didn't affect it either way. Things that did affect the sound quality turned out to be measurable and made sense. It just took 40 years to have equipment sensitive enough to show what changes occurred.

-Chris

Thanks Chris!
 
Pedantry can be a useful tool when the aim is to win an argument rather than cast light on an issue.

I still think "pedantry" is useful if you discuss the correctness of information; hadn´t you objected to my post about "complex wave impedance" i hadn´t noticed that a problem with my usage of the terms exist.

And i still maintain the assertion that the informations in this discussed (quoted) paragraph is basically correct - and your mentioning of the different impedance due to differenct wires carrying/conducting the interfering noise doesn´t change the fact that the relation of impedances plays a role - but not the two opinions presented as facts that we/i already mentioned.


No. It is considered to be FUD if you believe that a reasonable power cable should not lead to significant audible difference when used with reasonable equipment; this is a weaker statement than the one you suggest.<snip>

Imo a lot of posts in this and similar threads shows that not so many people are making the distinction you´ve presented above. There is quite often mentioned that nature laws would be violated if a "line cord" makes an audible difference, it is asserted that no measurable difference exists and don´t forget about all the jokes made on expense of the poor member that still thinks he perceives a difference due to an exchange of the "line cord".

That does not help; i think the last couple of posts have shown that it doesn´t need "mundane effects" to cause differences but instead that some very basic mechanism can lead to differences.

It points imo to some kind of circular logic, if one doesn´t have to try out different "line cords" (because reasonable devices don´t react differently), but that reasonable is defined by not reacting differently to different "line cords".

I think your argumentation is inconsistent wrt EMI topics and EEs; if you complain about the state of knowledge and the educational practice it is imo not ensured that devices are routinely immune against those effects.
How could they be "reasonable" to your definition if the people who are doing the design aren´t?


I´ve seen a lot of different internal wiring schemes for typical audio gear, and although there are some common ideas that allow to sort the devices into several classes, there is no overall agreement identifiable to prevent these problems. If you add the vintage gear still in use you got even more permutations; the professional world provided no exceptions to the rule, otherwise Neil Muncy wouldn´t have been honored with the special JAES issue devoted to exactly this kind of problems including the famous "pin 1 problem" . For pragmatic reasons you still find the ubiquitous "ground lift" switch.
 
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Here is a link to Shunyata using Ferroelectric material to help doctors get clearer medical images. This is really good!

Noise Reduction In Medical Procedures - Shunyata Research

I am sorry but I’ve never seen such a noisy cardiograph trace with ordinary hospital installations like the one shown as “without Hydra Power Conditioner”, not even with elementary cardiographs plugged into standard wall outlets in a physician’s office.
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I do not see any reference to ferroelectric material, or indeed to any science at all, in your link.

Please indicate exactly where the reference is located.

Not all inventions of Shunyata Research founder are related to ferroelectricity.
Science?

Shunyata Research, Caelin Gabriel
Caelin Gabriel Inventions, Patents and Patent Applications - Justia Patents Search

George
 

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