What I like might not be the same what you like.
Those parts are cheap, circuits are simple and all can be easily built in point-to-point manner so you can test them and decide for yourself what suits you the best...
BTW there is a 2sk170 on your PCB but the circuit uses BS170 - those are very different parts, check everything thoroughly ...
Those parts are cheap, circuits are simple and all can be easily built in point-to-point manner so you can test them and decide for yourself what suits you the best...
BTW there is a 2sk170 on your PCB but the circuit uses BS170 - those are very different parts, check everything thoroughly ...
I will build and try both.Will 2sk170 work instead BS170? Pins are the same though.I already have 2 pieces 2sk170 maybe genuine.BS170 bought from ebay have a chance to work?
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No....Will 2sk170 work instead BS170? ...
2sk170 is JFET (depletion mode device) and BS170 is MOSFET (enhanced mode device).
No need to buy parts on ebay - BS170 is current production and can be bought from reputable companies like Mouser or Digikey:
BS170 ON Semiconductor / Fairchild | Mouser Deutschland
BS170-D75Z ON Semiconductor | Diskrete Halbleiterprodukte | DigiKey
If they are genuine Toshiba and have Idss in range 8-15mA you can use them nicely - in fact, you can add a pair of Lateral MOSFETs and you'll have a great power amp....I already have 2 pieces 2sk170...
Single rail power supply, no input cap and the output cap is inside feedback loop (gain = 20dB, R13/R3 ratio). P1 sets the output stage bias (0.5 - 1A depending on your preferences/heatsinks) and P2 sets half of the power supply voltage at the + pin of C4. Both pots can be single turn, start setting them at middle positions (give capacitors few seconds to get charged before you start). To set the I_bias insert 0R1 resistor between plus pole of power supply and Drain of Q5. Watch the voltage drop across that resistor and set it with P1 to 50-100mV.
Z_in is determined by R2 (10k) so it will need the preamp with Z_out of less than 1k. Together with JFET's parasitic capacitance R2 builds an effective low pass filter that makes amp immune to RFI without compromising amp's freq./phase response. Amp's Z_out is very low (DF>100).
Output power depends on supply voltage (20W at 8R with 45V PSU and 10W at 8R with 30V PSU - with 4R load power gets doubled).
Amp sounds smooth, live and clean and it's simple enough to build point-to point.
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brilliant as always Juma, reminds me the fetzilla but simpler and with gyrator has to sound lovely.
will try it P2P
is there a way to increase the Zin a bit? and decrease gain? increase R2?
can I use BC547B instead? does hfe matters for cascoding?
OT. is your SuSy amp inv. OPA549 still the preferred AB class amp?
Is there a cheaper replacement for OPA549? BB ICs are really expensive....
will try it P2P
is there a way to increase the Zin a bit? and decrease gain? increase R2?
can I use BC547B instead? does hfe matters for cascoding?
OT. is your SuSy amp inv. OPA549 still the preferred AB class amp?
Is there a cheaper replacement for OPA549? BB ICs are really expensive....
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There is an error in post #164. Gain is set by R13/R2 ratio, not R3 (it's there just to avoid Gate going positive re. to Source).
You can try 22k for R2 - half the gain, double Z_in. Somewhat narrower passband.... is there a way to increase the Zin a bit? and decrease gain? increase R2?
Yes. Not muchcan I use BC547B instead? does hfe matters for cascoding?
No, but I still have it - sounds great with Rogers LS3/5AOT. is your SuSy amp inv. OPA549 still the preferred AB class amp?
Not that I know.Is there a cheaper replacement for OPA549? BB ICs are really expensive....
what cals AB amp has replaced your Susy inv amp?
need an AB amp for low power consumption but still sunding not bad
need an AB amp for low power consumption but still sunding not bad
That one won't get published soon.what cals AB amp has replaced your Susy inv amp?
Try LM3886 - not bad for sure. Low consumption guaranteed. Cheap too...need an AB amp for low power consumption but still sounding not bad
simple GC with LM3886 is my last ressort...
do you have somithing else, still cheap to propose?
Back on topic, is it possible to use the full mosfet with shade feedback version MOSFET-trioda Mju folover verzija - Solid State - diyAudio.rs
to drive latreal mosfets? will it sound different than the one with bf862 cascoded?
do you have somithing else, still cheap to propose?
Back on topic, is it possible to use the full mosfet with shade feedback version MOSFET-trioda Mju folover verzija - Solid State - diyAudio.rs
to drive latreal mosfets? will it sound different than the one with bf862 cascoded?
If they are genuine Toshiba and have Idss in range 8-15mA you can use them nicely - in fact, you can add a pair of Lateral MOSFETs and you'll have a great power amp.
Single rail power supply, no input cap and the output cap is inside feedback loop (gain = 20dB, R13/R3 ratio). P1 sets the output stage bias (0.5 - 1A depending on your preferences/heatsinks) and P2 sets half of the power supply voltage at the + pin of C4. Both pots can be single turn, start setting them at middle positions (give capacitors few seconds to get charged before you start). To set the I_bias insert 0R1 resistor between plus pole of power supply and Drain of Q5. Watch the voltage drop across that resistor and set it with P1 to 50-100mV.
Z_in is determined by R2 (10k) so it will need the preamp with Z_out of less than 1k. Together with JFET's parasitic capacitance R2 builds an effective low pass filter that makes amp immune to RFI without compromising amp's freq./phase response. Amp's Z_out is very low (DF>100).
Output power depends on supply voltage (20W at 8R with 45V PSU and 10W at 8R with 30V PSU - with 4R load power gets doubled).
Amp sounds smooth, live and clean and it's simple enough to build point-to point.
Thats interesting.I have some irf540/9540 sitting..Can you alter the schematic to use them?
The extras would be a vbe multiplier to compensate for output stage temperature and 2 source resistors for output mosfets?I would like to give it a try with shade gyrator as front stage but i cant buy 2sk1058-2sj162 at the moment.It's doable, but I wouldn't do it. The resulting circuit wouldn't be worth the effort.
Sorry, but now I see it won't perform as good as circuit in post #164 so you better get some BF862 JFETs while you can...
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