So I am confused by all the 3000usd and more AC cables. Somehow the electricity flowing in the wall through .10usd a foot Romex, when you plug in your super AC cable all of those electrons are suddenly transformed.
Guess I should just go back to smoking the funny grass!!
exactly this.
how poor wires are used on hv lines, not even copper! just a alu wires +iron center
not to mention distribution transformers..

and still these quack a$$es tell you how their ~ 2m cable gonna make huge difference..
stupid greed.
In eu, a false advertising is a bad thing. seller can be prosecuted.
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In eu, a false advertising is a bad thing. seller can be prosecuted.
Word of mouth, one-off advertising at events and lots and lots of subjective reviews.. get around that.
Is the sale of audio tech. with dubious scientific merit less in Europe?
I’m not sure that’s the case.
Seems the fellow selling very high priced AC cables in England who was investigated by their consumer protection group was exonerated.
I’m not sure of any successful prosecution cases by consumer groups regarding these kinds of audio claims in any country.
Anyone have info to the contrary?
I’m not sure that’s the case.
Seems the fellow selling very high priced AC cables in England who was investigated by their consumer protection group was exonerated.
I’m not sure of any successful prosecution cases by consumer groups regarding these kinds of audio claims in any country.
Anyone have info to the contrary?
I'm perfectly serious.
I'm saying that the filter materials I am talking about are best placed at the output end of each stage....think energy flow/transfer/transduction not ac signal.
By 'stage' I mean the output end of cables (power/signal/speaker), the output of a component cdp/dac/amp etc, output of crossover (speaker driver connections) and ultimately speaker magnets.
This is overview, there are many other implementations and applications similarly and additively beneficial.
I do understand that to the most of you here that the concept of the likes of BQP is too 'far out' to make sense, BUT once the likes of BQP is experienced all objections cease.
Dan.
Hmmm. So those expensive power cables work by some kind of filtering? I'm confused...
Flow as much power as you want, in as much "quality" as you want, if the impedance doesn't match, if flies right back at you. Signal/power/voltage/current, all ways of looking at it arrive at the same result. You can't change the words and think there is a different result.
This is why I preach about educating yourself so you can't be suckered.
I seldom get very practical answers from university education. Everybody’s goals just seemed to get higher scores instead of fully understanding.
The Bybee power cables, yes.Hmmm. So those expensive power cables work by some kind of filtering? I'm confused...
Dan.
Yep, they have a tethered maxwell demon, that's been explained here before...
And, sadly the advertising standards agency in the uk are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
And, sadly the advertising standards agency in the uk are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
I seldom get very practical answers from university education. Everybody’s goals just seemed to get higher scores instead of fully understanding.
A good university doesn't give you canned answers, but learns you how to logically approach, dissect and solve a problem. That's the 'universal' in 'university' 😉
Jan
This is why I preach about educating yourself so you can't be suckered.
Couldn't agree more and it's not just a formal education either , for me if i have an interest in something , whether it's a physical product or simply a service , i try to find out all i can about it in order to A understand it's background , how it works , why it works etc. and B what to do when things go wrong.
Sometimes persistence is needed but with the right keywords the answer to pretty much anything is ' out there '.
I contribute on the customer helplines of several forums , mostly digital services , and it's shocking the amount of people who sign up to stuff without being aware of what they are actually getting or agreeing too , there used to be an abbreviation many here are probably familiar with , RTFM , but it would seem the majority don't and suffer accordingly.
Konzentr8,
Your correct it's not so much formal education as just digging out the info and learning.
I do the same thing I get interested in a subject then I try to gain as much knowledge
as I can to help me understand the subject and make informed intelligent choices.
And Yes I'm one of those who actually reads the manuals cover to cover.
It's interesting how many "Unknown" features are documented right in the manuals.
Your correct it's not so much formal education as just digging out the info and learning.
I do the same thing I get interested in a subject then I try to gain as much knowledge
as I can to help me understand the subject and make informed intelligent choices.
And Yes I'm one of those who actually reads the manuals cover to cover.
It's interesting how many "Unknown" features are documented right in the manuals.
A good university doesn't give you canned answers, but learns you how to logically approach, dissect and solve a problem. That's the 'universal' in 'university' [emoji6]
Jan
I started doing that since 8th grade...
My impression of university years were they teach you about assumed problems which does not seem like a problem, and when asked what a problem is that in reality, they have a real problem with the question and give you an OT problem to solve in reality[emoji32]
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Yes, 'education' is about sharing facts, but it can also be a form of indoctrination when the 'facts' are later revealed to be wrong and have to be recanted.I seldom get very practical answers from university education. Everybody’s goals just seemed to get higher scores instead of fully understanding.
In my technical training it was asserted loudly that wires/cables are non directional....I now know this assertion to be wrong.
Dan.
A good university doesn't give you canned answers, but learns you how to logically approach, dissect and solve a problem.
Actually, some research indicates that universities don't teach people how to think. Rather, they filter out (flunk) people who can't think. If need be, maybe I can find a reference for you.
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In my technical training it was asserted loudly that wires/cables are non directional....I now know this assertion to be wrong.
Dan.
So not university. Come on, Dan, this thread is about the funniest snake oil theories, not the saddest ones.
This is why I preach about educating yourself so you can't be suckered.
Except for some of the best "salesmen" of terrible terrible ideas were some of our most lauded geniuses. E.g. check out how horribly wrong some of our Nobel Laureates have gone in their later research (or just plain gone bat-poop crazy).
And the more carefully you look around (especially inwards) the more "crazy" and "duped" you find. For a lot of people these just happen to exist in rather benign ways that don't get trotted out on forums. This isn't necessarily about intelligence or being "unable to be suckered" but rather that we're all pretty darn susceptible to having some serious breakdowns in our mental hardware.
That's not to say that things that are wrong shouldn't be rebutted, but berating members isn't going to get anywhere, and can easily give oneself a false sense of security about one's own fallacies.
Nothing sad about wire directionality......this thread is about the funniest snake oil theories, not the saddest ones.
Dan.
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