sort of related to this, I have always thought that one thing the under 30s have is more access to music than ever before as well as consumption methods. I would like to think this means that more people are listening to more music than ever before. Has anyone seen stats on this.
I truly believe that this is the golden age for loving music. And if that is the case then there is hope for quality reproduction.
I truly believe that this is the golden age for loving music. And if that is the case then there is hope for quality reproduction.
He's being grouchy and (with merit) wondering what all the ostensible advantages such new "stuff" actually has. Literacy is certainly not lacking, I promise.
As far as your rant about huge boxes/etc, speakers are still mechanical/acoustic systems. There's physics involved with why big boxes moved well into the room make a lot of sense. There are huge compromises to be made to push one's speakers against (or onto) the wall and made smaller. Not saying those compromises aren't worthwhile, but they're compromises nonetheless.
I realize that I'm just serving it back, harmlessly.
Another thing about us is that we have many layers of irony in gear simultaneously.
Im not anti-large-box, I had a pair of KEF 104.2's for a long time, some monster old floor standing JBL monitors, etc.
Some of the most enjoyable music I've ever heard was on a pair of Beveridges powered by Jcs early Levinson gear. Those things were humongous.
Also I very much liked a pair of snells that were designed to be up against the wall, so, it's at the very least possible.
I am simply making the statement that if you want to reach this market besides the occasional random outlier you have to think differently.
Lots of digital ink is spilled in lots of less productive ways on this forum. Also, it seems to be something you all feel is a sad thing... the lack of youth involved. I see a lot of posts that reflect this sentiment. Why not do something about it?
The solution, as has always been, is to compromise. You are the knowledgeable ones, I couldn't begin to offer a tangible solution I'm just offering observations. However I'm sure you are all capable enough to create something that meets everyone's needs. Perhaps the motivation is not there, who knows.
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It is the golden age, just try the free version of Spotify.
They have much more than enough for the usual casual listening.
Haven't tried premium yet, but lossless Spotify is coming soon.
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More maybe not in volume but variety. You pay for access to a service and have everything at your fingertips- before it was one album, then the next.
You know, iTunes foot the bill for the transfer of all these rare jazz efforts direct from master tapes ... best fidelity that ever reached the public, vinyl release was nonexistent or very limited. So, they don't want just Top 40 they want it all. And they're really trying to pull in the heavy music listeners with eclectic taste. In time it will become even more diverse.
The quality certainly isn't poor- and digital will only get better.
I'd argue it's easier and less expensive by far to get "decently high quality" fidelity now with more variety.
It's hard to use some of these words here when you all might refer to thousand dollar separates as midfi, but you get my point.
My music listening is split 25/75 digital/analog in the home.
I agree with you on most things but will disagree on iCrap. While there is a fashion and status component to the sales of Apple devices, the largest part of the reason for their dominance is that they produce very polished products and the software is good. People don't need to screw around with them generally speaking and they have the dominant accessory, music store, and app ecosystem. Average people just want their stuff to work without having to know anything.
Yeah, you or I want to be able to download FLAC files or whatever and encode it to some MP4 variant and copy it right onto the device's filesystem without installing the abomination known as iTunes, but most people are the opposite.
Most people now are using phones for music players anyway and I think the cost of an iPhone or Google Pixel XL is totally justified given the ****-level quality and experience that everything else provides.
I have never owned an iPhone, but the level of garbage and crapware (see- Samsung) in the Android ecosystem sadly makes it tempting. I use a Nexus 6P now, and if Google abandons the Pixel project I may be forced to buy an Apple product.
2 of us, at least.
IIRC you were at the BA party several years ago, where the progressive Russian music annoyed everyone and several drunk Russians serenaded us with their snoring before the night was over. I remember some amps very nice looking but we did not all appreciate the speakers.
Another option the iPod touch, which can also be used as a WiFi phone.
It's very compact, and easily fits a shirt pocket.
Yes, I'd probably lose that one somewhere. To me, compact is small enough to fit in my shirt pocket.
I could get 3 or 4 of the iPod touch in there. It was free from using a retirement gift card.
That was better than a damn clock anyway, haven't worn a watch in 30 years.
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No, I don't remember that. I believe they were Serbs, not Russians.
I remember when you gave me few samples of your opamps in DIP cases, and Jan Didden called my amp, "Sweet sound of Anatoliy's Russian Glassware"
Most impressive speakers then were BIB, with a single driver in an open at the top rectangular wooden tube.
And you probably remember my PA system, with large diaphragm condenser mics and line arrays.
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I know, that's why it's such a guilty pleasure to go completely over the top. I do have a hidden agenda though which is trying to get to the bottom of why many do not give MM cartridges a proper listen. Seems amongst the over 50s there is a border line between those who think the V15V (and the technics equivalents) were the best cartridges ever and those who think only MC can provide the truth on the plastic.
No more silly than chasing 1ppm on a power amplifier
I think MC's embellish stuff to come degrees, as all forms of large inductance trend with signal.
MM's can sound utterly fantastic. Again, usually they're limited by the poorly constructed stylus plastic and cartridge shell. Speaking of, I think I'll dampen my cartridge now that I've had nearly amazing results with the stylus plastic itself.
I know some will scoff, but considering where I'd rank my system in the world, the scoff's are whimpers in the wind.
That means you're mostly depressed and don't care about ****. But if you're poked enough you'll spout resentment and talk **** about those that aspired, rose up, or had something handed to them.
Wavebourn, Scott was only trying to humiliate you by connecting you to some noisy visitors. He tried the same thing to me, several years ago, when I accidentally called him while he was making love to his wife. (How could I know in advance?) but I stopped calling him after that. That did not stop him from putting it up on this website.
This it it's best USP and why it's called a 'clip'. It has a clip on the back so you can clip to shirt/tie/whatever. Sadly I have very few shirts with pockets on now. I started getting nicer shirts for work when a few years back I needed to do client meetings and it's hard to get pockets any more.
Of course most of us remember the original walkman where Sony had their sales force issued with shirts with extra large pockets
. But the net result of a portable pocket full of high quality music is the important bit!
Sadly I have very few shirts with pockets on now. I started getting nicer shirts for work
when a few years back I needed to do client meetings and it's hard to get pockets any more.
Of course most of us remember the original walkman where Sony had their sales force
issued with shirts with extra large pockets
I hate shirts without pockets, since I use them for a wallet. I gave up on using
the rear pants pocket long ago because it's too uncomfortable when seated.
I did have an early FM only Walkman (never used cassettes) and enjoyed it
for what it was, for $20. http://pocketcalculatorshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/srf-40.jpg
Destroyer: That description doesn't seem to work for me. Ah well, never did like being pigeonholed .
MM vs MC I have not made a decision yet but am intending to give them both a fair crack with an open mind. I also think most of the problem with MM is the phono stages not the cartridges.
.MM vs MC I have not made a decision yet but am intending to give them both a fair crack with an open mind. I also think most of the problem with MM is the phono stages not the cartridges.
Yes, a Shure V15III body with a Jico VN-3G stylus is a real sleeper.
Needs a lower mass arm than is common, though.
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