Best electrolytic capacitors

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#784
Well, you guys aren't going to come to any consensus with regard to various capacitors without some kind of framework and some common way to come to various conclusions. You need to determine what applications these capacitors are used in for one. Then, everyone's systems vary in resolving power. With little defence against expectation bias ...

-Chris
 
#785
Hi Chris
You can't unless we all are building the same circuit.
Like Jean Paul quoted in BG thread, where to apply
becomes an art in itself. Very true too but in order
to do this one must know the sound of the capacitors
in use. Contrary to what many may think , all components
do have a sonic signature be it caps, resistors etc, even
pcb. Crazy right, I once build 2 Pass boz one was on pcb
the other P to P all components the same & guess what,
P to P sounded better much more smoother sounding.
So we're caught up into asking many why's & yet when
measured with a scope you see no difference

Cheers
 
#791
sumotan said:
You can't unless we all are building the same circuit.
Like Jean Paul quoted in BG thread, where to apply
becomes an art in itself. Very true too but in order
to do this one must know the sound of the capacitors
in use. Contrary to what many may think , all components
do have a sonic signature be it caps, resistors etc, even
pcb.
Click to expand...
We also have to find a way to standardize our ears and sonic preferences. So there will never be complete agreement on which caps are best, although we may get some good recommendations in this thread.


Sent from my phone with Tapatalk. Please excuse any typpos.
 
#792
Agreed Aqua just like food we all have different taste.
But what is clear is one must start to be a good listener.
What we're all trying to do is to mimick what real instruments
sounds like. If you notice especially at high frequencies though
directional is not trust at you like lots of playback system.
It still blooms & expands & this goes for the other frquency as well.
From here we then move into transparency, timbre, decay so on & so
forth.

Cheers
 
#793
sumotan said:
Agreed Aqua just like food we all have different taste.
But what is clear is one must start to be a good listener.
Click to expand...

A highly experienced good listener.
Intimately familiar with non-amplified music.
Completely dispassionate about the results.
Owning a system that neither obscures nor benefits from a part's flaws.

Plenty of variables to juggle.
 
#798
Capacitors do measure differently. You're looking at dissipation values. The other worthwhile experiment would be to look at the current waveform through them, or the voltage across them at high impedance (of course!). Checking at various frequencies that suit the capacitor value and type is part of the skill set.

If you can hear a real difference between capacitors, you can usually measure it. Look in the residuals with a spectrum analyser, of directly with a spectrum analyser. The differences are small, but they are there to see. The new instrument JensH is making might be able to resolve more.

Chasing small differences is an expensive business. I've been working "in the grass" for years now, and this new instrument promises a way to find the right path. These measurements tend to agree with what is heard too.

-Chris
 
#799
Well Chris don't have the luxury to own such equipment.
It's always trial with me. Knowing what a cap sounds like
does help a lot. At the end of the day what ever I've build
will always have 3-4 brands or types of caps at least. Each
at location which sounds best & as a whole sounds good

Cheers
 
#800
Hi sumotan,
That just makes your work more difficult. As I do service work, some of the equipment is normally available. Like some others around here, my equipment is far in excess of what is needed to do service work.

-Chris
 
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