Hi Chris Yes & no. Measurements good to have but don't tell the whole story. I've prefer my way as its like getting to know the people, you learn the goods & bads & with that your able to gather different people & place them in a spot where they will excel. Caps to me are used with the same approach and believe me it really is a good approach. Same for other passive components. For SS stuff caps affects SQ most. While tubes surprise resistors & tubes themselves affect SQ most. This Im speaking in context of tweaking. Circuit design is another topic all together which off course Im no bloody good at. Lol
Thanks for sharing Chris
Thanks for sharing Chris
Audio Note Kaisei is crazy good electrolytic. PIO-like smoothness and blackness to the background, very enjoyable capacitor as cathode bypass and PSU cap. Betters my previous go-to electrolytic, Silmic II, by a big margin.
You speaking of Bi Polar or Standard Kaisei Legis ?
Yes was thinking of trying some but ???
Thks
Yes was thinking of trying some but ???
Thks
I have tried only normal cheaper polar versions. I use 2x 100µF/500V caps in the CLCLC power supply of my 300B SE amp and 16V/1000µF caps as a cathode resistor bypass of my 101D SE DHT in both my preamplifier and my DAC (both use the same transformer coupled super-simple 101D schematic).
Like I said, the sound is smooth like a PIO capacitor. Typical electrolytic is usually grainy, not the Kaisei, they are super smooth and delicate sounding right from the start. They are warm, lush and highly enjoyable, simply awesome caps. Try them if you share my affection towards PIO and wax caps like Duelund Cast Cu and tend to like everything smooth, textured and musical sounding.
Like I said, the sound is smooth like a PIO capacitor. Typical electrolytic is usually grainy, not the Kaisei, they are super smooth and delicate sounding right from the start. They are warm, lush and highly enjoyable, simply awesome caps. Try them if you share my affection towards PIO and wax caps like Duelund Cast Cu and tend to like everything smooth, textured and musical sounding.
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Thanks Legis yes will give it a try. Cathode bypass 1000uf !!!!
Thats very high a value. What about the bass. Read somewhere
that it's a little light weight
Thanks again
Thats very high a value. What about the bass. Read somewhere
that it's a little light weight
Thanks again
For the lowest possible noise with a line level DHT one has to use high value cap as a bypass... And my system is dead silent, no white noise/hiss, no hum, it's like it's not even turned on. 🙂
I don't find the bass of Kaiseis lacking or light weight in my system and the places and sizes I have used them.
I don't find the bass of Kaiseis lacking or light weight in my system and the places and sizes I have used them.
Hi Legis,
-Chris
The only higher resistance path I can think of would be a pentode, transformer and a horn! I'd have to say that the path of least resistance is clearly a solid state amplifier with lot's of feedback and maybe a horn.
-Chris
Agree totally with Legis.
This is a cap that can add that last bit of rich smooth analogue sound like no other electrolytic.
It is pretty balanced but the shortfall of this smoothness is less air and deep bass slam, very typical of PIO film caps, not as organic as a duelund cu, but that another story.
This is a cap that can add that last bit of rich smooth analogue sound like no other electrolytic.
It is pretty balanced but the shortfall of this smoothness is less air and deep bass slam, very typical of PIO film caps, not as organic as a duelund cu, but that another story.
give me two same identical pcb: with the same caps values (capacitance&voltage) I can easily make a sound design sounds bad (quite easily) and the other one good and more correct with a little of work and time... just by mixing the caps origins !
Give more freedom as moving a little the values (capacitance and voltage) and dielectric types : i can even more easily make it sounding worst and even better than the previous good work...
And as it will feet with the rest of the Hi-FI stuffs to tailor the sound for a nice compensation, it will be even better !
Do it just with a scope without long experience and knowledge of acoustical music : good luck ! You will have perfect square or boobs on the scope without the guaranty it sounds right !
It's also hard for a manufacter to find the right equilibrium with a standalone device and its sounding signature ! Associations are still an important thing with doing sound good a whole hifi stuffs !
Of course some are a bit excessive with cost reduction and putt craps caps and some sexy caps here and there for the hifi porn magazin and reviews !
We all know that here ! The sport is making th ethings to be a little more good just because we can not having purchasing director above our heads or stupid hifi reviewers...
For me I have no doubt than the original poster is knowing that as a talentuous designer and just posted in a spirit of both gentle provocation and usefull benchmark...
Give more freedom as moving a little the values (capacitance and voltage) and dielectric types : i can even more easily make it sounding worst and even better than the previous good work...
And as it will feet with the rest of the Hi-FI stuffs to tailor the sound for a nice compensation, it will be even better !
Do it just with a scope without long experience and knowledge of acoustical music : good luck ! You will have perfect square or boobs on the scope without the guaranty it sounds right !
It's also hard for a manufacter to find the right equilibrium with a standalone device and its sounding signature ! Associations are still an important thing with doing sound good a whole hifi stuffs !
Of course some are a bit excessive with cost reduction and putt craps caps and some sexy caps here and there for the hifi porn magazin and reviews !
We all know that here ! The sport is making th ethings to be a little more good just because we can not having purchasing director above our heads or stupid hifi reviewers...
For me I have no doubt than the original poster is knowing that as a talentuous designer and just posted in a spirit of both gentle provocation and usefull benchmark...
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Eldam,
You don't get there using a 'scope. For this fine detail you use some kind of signal analyser and THD meter or a notch filter so you can look into the tiny signals. Mind you, a scope can tell you a lot about a capacitor if you know what you are doing.
I routinely improve equipment performance using my bench and my ears. As of late, I can send someone home with something I haven't listened to an tell them what they will hear. It's a gift 🙂 No, it's experience and curiosity.
-Chris
You don't get there using a 'scope. For this fine detail you use some kind of signal analyser and THD meter or a notch filter so you can look into the tiny signals. Mind you, a scope can tell you a lot about a capacitor if you know what you are doing.
I routinely improve equipment performance using my bench and my ears. As of late, I can send someone home with something I haven't listened to an tell them what they will hear. It's a gift 🙂 No, it's experience and curiosity.
-Chris
You certainly right and btw I have any knowledge to use it ! I just think all the advices given by experienced guys like Sumotan, J-P, Dario, Karl, etc I often read are good as mine as well... and it makes the difference at the end !
so yes experience curiosity matter ! I believe all those talentuous engineers working for the most famous brand have no time to work to make a better result with passive parts (time is money), tied with ropes by their marketing and purchasing dpt ! But here we see too often yet some people thinking if the scope is good, the sounding result is good as well and often with scientists argues they don't master themselves !
We have not these constraints as it is our hobby ! But without hearing it you can't know ! Oh it will be quiet, transparent, etc... but why so much brands at any price sound so "bad" or not goo enough ! Bah it is not just about the caps of course : but they are too much confident in the measurements ! It measure well, ok I did my job, but oh man it doesn't sound good ! But ok it measures fine, so I did my job !
Or there were no forums like this one but if the goal is only to do it yourself to winn money ! Unluckilly, even some expensive designs can be improved with sucess !
Me I have the experience of my ears which thinks there are no cello which sounds the same in real life ! I listen also a lot of rock/Pop... the result here is less important !
Common there will be only Nichicons or Silmic II caps ! No.............. ! SOme brands like Conrad Johnson understood it for a long time and all the experienced audiophiles as well looking at all the magazines from everywhere... So what to say ? I think many Financial guys want to construct hi-fi stuffs like fridges ! It's cold money for cold stuffs ! Not our goals here as music lovers ! Scope is cold if not to check a result ! Make it your first goal and you have a big chance to make a common design like there are too many on shelves.
so yes experience curiosity matter ! I believe all those talentuous engineers working for the most famous brand have no time to work to make a better result with passive parts (time is money), tied with ropes by their marketing and purchasing dpt ! But here we see too often yet some people thinking if the scope is good, the sounding result is good as well and often with scientists argues they don't master themselves !
We have not these constraints as it is our hobby ! But without hearing it you can't know ! Oh it will be quiet, transparent, etc... but why so much brands at any price sound so "bad" or not goo enough ! Bah it is not just about the caps of course : but they are too much confident in the measurements ! It measure well, ok I did my job, but oh man it doesn't sound good ! But ok it measures fine, so I did my job !
Or there were no forums like this one but if the goal is only to do it yourself to winn money ! Unluckilly, even some expensive designs can be improved with sucess !
Me I have the experience of my ears which thinks there are no cello which sounds the same in real life ! I listen also a lot of rock/Pop... the result here is less important !
Common there will be only Nichicons or Silmic II caps ! No.............. ! SOme brands like Conrad Johnson understood it for a long time and all the experienced audiophiles as well looking at all the magazines from everywhere... So what to say ? I think many Financial guys want to construct hi-fi stuffs like fridges ! It's cold money for cold stuffs ! Not our goals here as music lovers ! Scope is cold if not to check a result ! Make it your first goal and you have a big chance to make a common design like there are too many on shelves.
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anyone compared or experienced with most of Blackgate N - Nichicon ES - Nichicon FG - Nichicon KZ - Elna Bipolar RB - Panasonic FM FC
Remember that all electrolytics degrade over time, but different caps will degrade at very different rates in any specific scenario. You need to consider lifespan @ usage temperature, ripple current rating etc. This doesn't just apply to objectivists - even hardened subjectivists should aim for performance that lasts over time (who wants a device that sounds brilliant day one, but terrible 1yr on when the caps are cooked and half their initial value with high esr).
This is why I lost interest in audiophile branded caps that don't provide basic specs, and have recently stuck with Panasonic/Rubycon/BC caps overspecified for each requirement. I want my kit to sound good for me, and also for my family & friends 5yrs on after I've given it away.
This is why I lost interest in audiophile branded caps that don't provide basic specs, and have recently stuck with Panasonic/Rubycon/BC caps overspecified for each requirement. I want my kit to sound good for me, and also for my family & friends 5yrs on after I've given it away.