John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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SY said:
No, most of what's said there is accurate, and they were kind enough to say when they were speculating. Nothing hilariously stupid like "wine stored in a terra cotta rack will taste different than wine stored in a wooden rack," just well-established facts about storage temperatures, shipping conditions, and the realities of wines not made to age.
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SY,

If you think it through, you just might figure out why in some places (climates) there will be a difference between wines stored for a bit on racks with vastly different thermal time constants.
 
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RNMarsh said:
or buy wine from costco... same thing.
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I gather you don't buy any wine retail or at a restaurant or have ever enjoyed a wine someone else did? The entire British culture around "Claret" was established when there was nothing but horses and sailing ships. You should read some of the old books, they can be entertaining and in many cases it's interesting how similar the descriptions are.
 
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scott wurcer said:
For what is considered proper storage it would not matter.
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Seems to me the added thermal mass where you have warm days and cool nights would be an inexpensive approach to keeping the temperature more constant. One late family member had his winery storage all underground close to the Canadian border. Gave a nice constant temperature without much expense. Lighting only needed when someone was in a storage room.

But of course we don't agree! 🙂
 
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simon7000 said:
Seems to me the added thermal mass where you have warm days and cool nights would be an inexpensive approach to keeping the temperature more constant. One late family member had his winery storage all underground close to the Canadian border. Gave a nice constant temperature without much expense. Lighting only needed when someone was in a storage room.

But of course we don't agree! 🙂
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Well for pricey wines if you cannot prove you kept it stored at the correct temp +- 2 degrees then it does not sell at the market price, so in this one I would side with Scott that the material of the storage rack is inconsequential.

for cheaper wine for one's own consumption then yes, it simplifies the cooling arangements if you have some thermal mass to keep things at a steady temp.
 
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Max Headroom said:
Everything you ever wanted to know about wines in 900 pages....
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I hope you realize how ironic this is. It's like me posting links to EE texts. The text book winemakers at UC Davis once decided Chateaux d'Yquem is inherently flawed because is has detectable volatile acidity. There are numerous examples of recognized great wines that have technical flaws according to propeller-headed chemists.
 
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dimitri said:
"There are numerous examples of recognized great audio products that have technical flaws according to propeller-headed objectivists?" 😉
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I imagine there are more than one well-loved phono cartridges that have technical flaws according to meter reading objectivists. And I imagine you could find at least one objectivist who claims the Quad ESL-63 has technical flaws.
 
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wrinkle said:
Well for pricey wines if you cannot prove you kept it stored at the correct temp +- 2 degrees then it does not sell at the market price, so in this one I would side with Scott that the material of the storage rack is inconsequential.

for cheaper wine for one's own consumption then yes, it simplifies the cooling arangements if you have some thermal mass to keep things at a steady temp.
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A bit of drift here. The issue was if the rack construction can affect the wine. Seems if a four degree window is critical that would support the more thermal mass does make a difference.
 
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simon7000 said:
A bit of drift here. The issue was if the rack construction can affect the wine. Seems if a four degree window is critical that would support the more thermal mass does make a difference.
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That merely repeats the second sentence I provided though, a properly
controlled warehouse for wine storage is usually held to better temp control than that.

My Father has some wines bought wholesale that he keeps in a warehouse, as once he has brought a case home the chance of being able to sell it at the correct price drops to nil.
He keeps some at home for occasional personal consumption but is aware it is a one way trip out of the warehouse.
 
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wrinkle said:
My Father has some wines bought wholesale that he keeps in a warehouse, as once he has brought a case home the chance of being able to sell it at the correct price drops to nil.
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The prices have driven folks to OCD behavior. In the 70's one of Boston's biggest collectors stored everything in various New England basements that he owned. I shared literally 100's of the greatest Bordeauxs and Burgundies as old as the 1930's, storage was not an issue. OTOH when a friend's grandmother died he found an unopened case of 1947 Meursault in her basement and we open the entire case to find one good bottle.
 
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