Moode Audio Player for Raspberry Pi

Thanx Tim and kit1cat!

Both Airfoil and Tuneblade worked with Moode and Tidal.
But- the sound is very bad- especially if one imagines, that I have chosen lossless hifi-standard in Tidal;-) That's no alternative at all.

Playing from usb-stick or hdd/ssd directly is the holy grail!

Airplay with that sound quality really makes no sense


Greetingz, Robert

Hi Guys!

There must have been some initial problems when I first started with Airplay. After further trials it sounds good now- Sorry for irritation!

That's really an interesting possibility.

Allthough I have to say, that playing directly from usb-stick or ssd sounds better- with a bit more dynamics and resolution. But Airplaying from Tidal is a good alternative.

Thanx for hints and tips! @Servervaboon- I will try this bubble-thing and upnp tomorrow!

Greetingz, Robert
 
Adding a screen - any change?

Hi

I upgraded to 2.6 smoothly. All very nice. Thanks a lot!

I'm still considering adding a touchscreen and would like to avoid having a second raspberry for this (would prefer to limit footprint).

Does the new architecture of 2.6 make it easier to add a light X interface on top of the core system?

Have seen the recent announcement of rasptouch (Rasptouch – The ultimate Open Source Player) and find it interesting, but would prefer to make it work with Moode.

P.

Or would Peppy (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pc-based/288412-peppy-player.html) work with MoodeAudio? At a first reading it might be a lighter solution to control mpd.
 
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Hi Kent
Thanks for reply.

When I lsusb with Amanero I get 4 devices - and 004 is clearly Amanero according to 'sudo lsusb -s -v 001:004' (and it is playing).
When I lsusb with the X-1 I get only 3 devices....and of course no music etc. But there is lit led in "power on"

My win10 recognize+play with the Singxer driver - same cable etc.

The best
Baek

To which I replied
Hej, Baek.

It's no consolation to you, I know, but I was expecting this.
...

Oops. I didn't read carefully enough what you wrote, Baek. For lsusb to show no device at all is *not* expected. I was thinking about the device not advertising its audio capability in a way known to the Linux audio subsystem.

USB is tricky (some would say it's a nightmare) but there should have been something detected when you plugged in your device. This is basic stuff which has nothing to do with what kind of device it is.

Any detected USB device then shows up as a line in the lsusb output with Bus and Device numbers (assigned by the OS as a device is detected) and a VendorID:productID (declared by the device). The text string which follows the IDs in the lsusb output does not come from the device itself as I implied before but from a predefined list within the filesystem on most Linux distros (/var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids in MoodeOS). If the device VendorID:productID isn't on the list, there will be no text. [1]

If you are really curious, you can plug your X-1 device into your Windows box and find its USB VendorID:DeviceID by going through the Windows Device Manager, and there are Windows utilities out there similar in function to verbose lsusb, but going that way seems an academic exercise.

Sorry if I muddied the waters.

Good luck.

MH,
Kent

[1] The list is maintained by volunteers, and the distro may not provide the most up-to-date version of the list, so it is by no means an exhaustive list. Possibly, the volunteers add value through their activity, but it looks to me as if many of the entries have simply been scraped from the iProduct field in the USB Device Descriptor of devices known to the volunteers. It is curious to me that the Linux USB utilities don't just read the content of the iProduct field in the Device Descriptor directly.
 
Hi

I have just installed Bubbleupnp at my Raspberry, and it works perfectly with Tidal Hifi with the Lumin app at my iPad, and moode as the upnprender :)

Anders
I was talking about Bubble the Android control point.

Have you installed Bubble Server?

I am wondering whether the control point bubble support of Tidal is enough.




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Hi Tim!

I'm using Bubble upnp with Tidal in hifi quality now (flac). Comparing sound to Airplay with Tuneblade, the Airplay solution sounds slightly better. In Audio info I see, that with upnp renderer and bubble upnp there is variable bitrate compression. This is not practiced with airplay. How can I disable this unholy vbr setting. Is it set in Moode or handled in bubble upnp? Is there a way to disable that?

Thanx and greetingz
Robert
 
Hi Kai,

ALSA shows output of 88% volume level. If there is low sound level at the speakers then it would suggest something external to Moode software.

-Tim
Hi Tim,

I think I got some progress with this issue - it happenes only with the hifiberry AMP, dont know why: everytime I change the volume in any apple application the amixer shows volume mono 0%. If I manually change the volume via moodeaudio player, the amixer shows correct volume output e.g. 67%. Going back to iTunes or iPad volume control and changing there the volume (even increasing) amixer jumps back to mono 0%.
Only going to 100% volume in iTunes it works.
As mentioned this doesnt happen with the DAC pro+
Any help with this ?
Thanks
Kai
 
I was talking about Bubble the Android control point.

Have you installed Bubble Server?

I am wondering whether the control point bubble support of Tidal is enough.




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Yes, it's the server I have installed at the same rpi as moode. Then I just set the bubbleupnp to use moode as renderer. I use the Lumin app to login at Tidal, and then use moode as renderer from that app.
 
Hi Tim!

I'm using Bubble upnp with Tidal in hifi quality now (flac). Comparing sound to Airplay with Tuneblade, the Airplay solution sounds slightly better. In Audio info I see, that with upnp renderer and bubble upnp there is variable bitrate compression. This is not practiced with airplay. How can I disable this unholy vbr setting. Is it set in Moode or handled in bubble upnp? Is there a way to disable that?

Thanx and greetingz
Robert

Hi Robert,

Its just a display bug on Audio info. Moode is not actually converting the audio to VBR. I might be able to fix the bug for the 2.7 release or possibly in the next 2.6 update.

-Tim
 
Hi,
after the latest online update the config page (Menu=>Configure=>System"moode/sys-config.php" doesn't work anymore, only a blank page.
How can i go back to an earlier version?

Thanks!

Hi Carsten,

Thats odd. The user reports I'm receiving indicate no issues with the 06-27 update.

I assume u followed the instructions in the announcement post. The link is at top of Moode Twitter feed.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pc-based/271811-moode-audio-player-raspberry-pi-366.html#post4759118

There are a couple of options:

1) rerun Updater manually via ssh and use TOP to monitor for completion of apt-get and mandb tasks. When these no longer appear in the process list, reboot.

sudo /var/www/command/updater.sh r26

2) Per the update instructions, it was recommended that a backup of the SD card be made before installing an update. Copy this backup to a new SD card, boot and then install the update again.

Regards,
Tim
 
Hmm... Just upgraded my second player to newest 2.6 and got scared by the loud, digital noise when hit play.
This player is also based on PiZero (like the first one), but instead of pHat DAC I'm using here the PlainDAC. Before upgrade all was ok. Could it be that PlainDAC has some problems with Moode or newest kernel? Anyone else had this problem?

Marek
 
Hi Tim!

I'm using Bubble upnp with Tidal in hifi quality now (flac). Comparing sound to Airplay with Tuneblade, the Airplay solution sounds slightly better. In Audio info I see, that with upnp renderer and bubble upnp there is variable bitrate compression. This is not practiced with airplay. How can I disable this unholy vbr setting. Is it set in Moode or handled in bubble upnp? Is there a way to disable that?

Thanx and greetingz
Robert
Interesting about the differing qualities, I wonder does Bubble control app serve the stream or does send a url to Moode.

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Hmm... Just upgraded my second player to newest 2.6 and got scared by the loud, digital noise when hit play.
This player is also based on PiZero (like the first one), but instead of pHat DAC I'm using here the PlainDAC. Before upgrade all was ok. Could it be that PlainDAC has some problems with Moode or newest kernel? Anyone else had this problem?

Marek

PlainDAC working fine here, PiB and latest 2.6 MoOde.