On the face of it, a $300 USB-to-spdif converter should be able to be demonstrated better than a $20 one, rather than being sold on hand-waving and FUD. So presumably you have solid DBT results proving the superiority of the stuff you're selling? Could you please share exactly how those were set up and run, and how the results were tabulated, so that they can be replicated?
What would be the point in trying to convince a bunch of non-believers that every cable makes a difference, if you a priori are going to deny it?
The question is simple: can you hear the difference between two usb cables:
a) a printer USB a-b cable
b) supra usb 2.0 a-b cable (best $60 you'll ever spend on hifi)
Everyone I know can easily distinguish the supra as being far superior.
Have you ever tried two different cables in your life? You must have had?
Try a cheap IEC power cable (computer monitor power cable for example), and then compare it with a solid core twisted pair copper cable properly terminated at both ends that can be made for less than $10.
Once you hear them both, go ahead and bash your brain with a question: “Why is this solid core copper cable sounding so much better than the IEC multi-litz computer monitor power cable. It’s only 240 (220?)V AC after all…???”
Without a controlled test you are just proving how easy it is to fool your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ if you have not seen this you should.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ if you have not seen this you should.
Then provide some factual evidence other than audiophile hearsay as to HOW USB cables can sound different (as I have said ignore the noise issue, or if you have to resort to noise, then again provide some proof).
It really is time that the hobby started getting back to reality and then maybe we could move forward with the real issues with music reproduction instead of all these silly cable myths and silly priced rip off cables...
The same with Jitter....
Lets move on a bit and base the hobby and decisions on real facts...
It really is time that the hobby started getting back to reality and then maybe we could move forward with the real issues with music reproduction instead of all these silly cable myths and silly priced rip off cables...
The same with Jitter....
Lets move on a bit and base the hobby and decisions on real facts...
Read the above post, and give yourself a chance to enjoy the music. Of course, leave the ego kerbed for a moment...
The controlled test is the fact that everyone I know can hear the difference.
Have you tried what I posted in #262?
Have you ever compared two cables... any two cables? Or are you afraid to do it?
To prevent the brain fooling your senses, ask a member of your family to do blind A - B for you. And try the power cable thing I mentioned in #262 first.
The controlled test is the fact that everyone I know can hear the difference.
Have you tried what I posted in #262?
Have you ever compared two cables... any two cables? Or are you afraid to do it?
To prevent the brain fooling your senses, ask a member of your family to do blind A - B for you. And try the power cable thing I mentioned in #262 first.
Factual evidence can be provided very easily. But, you guys have to try my suggestions first...
Is this before or after they are told how much it costs, and with or without knowledge of which cable is in use, and with or without the test technician knowing which is in use?Extreme_Boky said:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Most cable claims come with no evidence at all.
I don't recall ever trying cable swapping, except when a cable was faulty. What would be the point? Given that everything else in my system obeys the laws of physics, why would I assume that cables (by far the simplest and most ideal part of the system) are different?
a) a printer USB a-b cable
b) supra usb 2.0 a-b cable (best $60 you'll ever spend on hifi)
try both in "controlled" environment; ask someone to do blind A-B for you...
Ok, so try:
a) a printer USB a-b cable
b) supra usb 2.0 a-b cable (best $60 you'll ever spend on hifi)
in a controlled environment... A-B performed by someone else.
OK, so you have no actual evidence. Perhaps the guy with the $300 USB to spdif adapter can do better?
Unbelievable...!!!!
You say you have a PhD, right?
You should take all that knowledge in laws of physics and apply to electronics and audio
Judging from few other threads, you in fact do not have the most basic understanding in electronics.
Do you know what happens when you drive fast changing differential signal down a transmission line cable? Are you aware of USB transceiver PCB track width / spacing standards, and how would they affect the sound? And for that reason, how would different USB cable, with different characteristics, affect the sound?
Have you ever used a differential probe, and matched that probe to an appropriate oscilloscope, in your life? Would you even know what to look for, to explain to your brain why cable b) sounds so superior to cable a)
Sorry, you are making the claim, you need to provide the evidence. That's the rules. I did post an output spectrum of an evil adaptive USB DAC jitter, which you decided to ignore even though with even 2 minutes of research would have found things you could have commented on.
You are though borderline Turing fail.
I have found that actually its the audiophiles who are so sure of their infallible hearing that have the EGO's, there is never any evidence posted to support the claims other than anecdotal sighted listening....
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