• WARNING: Tube/Valve amplifiers use potentially LETHAL HIGH VOLTAGES.
    Building, troubleshooting and testing of these amplifiers should only be
    performed by someone who is thoroughly familiar with
    the safety precautions around high voltages.

Headphone amp OTL

Status
This old topic is closed. If you want to reopen this topic, contact a moderator using the "Report Post" button.
Member
Joined 2009
Paid Member
I need to know the output impedance of attached schematic? also I need to know if I have to change some resistors & caps values to use 6SN7 in place of 12SX7?

TIA
Felipe
 

Attachments

  • head_amp_schem 6SN7 + EL34 OTL.jpg
    head_amp_schem 6SN7 + EL34 OTL.jpg
    101.9 KB · Views: 966
Disabled Account
Joined 2013
Please see attached. You should increase the value of output capacitor if you use low impedance hp.
 

Attachments

  • el34 hp output impedance.png
    el34 hp output impedance.png
    209.9 KB · Views: 733
  • el34 hp output impedance -2.png
    el34 hp output impedance -2.png
    230.4 KB · Views: 754
  • el34 hp FFT-1.png
    el34 hp FFT-1.png
    218.4 KB · Views: 683
Last edited:
Disabled Account
Joined 2013
Thank you, do you now anyway to improve the amp?

Well the noise level is very low so that is very quiet as claimed. EL34 can output 120V at 1.5% THD if bias @ half HT (+125V), then if only 1 to 10V is required to drive the hp. that is still very good bias point. Second, gain of 6SN7 stage can be reduced and also bias EL34 @ about 1/2 HT, so what gain do you want so I can try to come up one meet your need.
 
Hi

A suggestion : to use the double triode 6SN7 in SRPP mode rather than to put 2 triodes in parallel.

This tube is perfect for that as its µ is constant when Ip > 5 mA. It will give very low harmonic distorsion.

Polarization points should be revisited but maybe Koonw can give a try with Spice.

B+ for SRPP can be reduced introducing a RC network in the B+ line.

Jacques
 
Disabled Account
Joined 2013
Here is SRPP sim you requested, please have a look. Unable to get srpp stage distortion lower than 0.1%, and noise floor looks like higher.


Edit: Sorry noise level is no difference based on 20k load
 

Attachments

  • el34 hp srpp-1.png
    el34 hp srpp-1.png
    220.7 KB · Views: 330
Last edited:
Well done, Koonw !

0.1% is very low and excellent in my point of view.

In sims, noise floor depends on the sim parameters.

Real noise floor will be higher, no matter the stage, because of the real PSU.

So I think it is a good circuit Merlin el mago can try. Not too much components to change.

Jacques
 
Status
This old topic is closed. If you want to reopen this topic, contact a moderator using the "Report Post" button.